MSI 5700 mech oc

[person223]

Is the Msi 5700 mech oc a good aftermarket graphics card. i've heard some things about the thermal pads being too small and then it makes it so that the GDDR6 chips overheat. But did they fix that? This is the not xt verison

[Daniel Z.]

It’s fine. It’s not a great card, but it’s good enough

[person223]

4 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

It’s fine. It’s not a great card, but it’s good enough

Evidence?

[SkilledRebuilds]

13 minutes ago, person223 said:

Evidence?

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3531-msi-listened-rx-5700xt-evoke-oc-thermal-pad-revision
If they fixed the XT, and the non-XT has the same issues, they will fix that too.
 

Just be aware of the issues, and replace thermal pads if your worried about them or buy an alternative 5700 series manufacturer.

[person223]

Just now, SkilledRebuilds said:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3531-msi-listened-rx-5700xt-evoke-oc-thermal-pad-revision
If they fixed the XT, and the non-XT has the same issues, they will fix that too.
 

Just be aware of the issues, and replace thermal pads if your worried about them or buy an alternative 5700 series manufacturer.

That is the xt modle i am buying the non xt modle

[SkilledRebuilds]

5 minutes ago, person223 said:

That is the xt modle i am buying the non xt modle

Which is why I said.....

6 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3531-msi-listened-rx-5700xt-evoke-oc-thermal-pad-revision
If they fixed the XT, and the non-XT has the same issues, they will fix that too.
 

Just be aware of the issues, and replace thermal pads if your worried about them or buy an alternative 5700 series manufacturer.

 

If the non-XT suffers the same,they have to fix it too.

[IcarusLSC]

The Mech OC the OP has and the Evoke are different cards.

 

[person223]

1 minute ago, IcarusLSC said:

The Mech OC the OP has and the Evoke are different cards.

 

ok

[person223]

24 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Which is why I said.....

 

If the non-XT suffers the same,they have to fix it too.

Ya got the wrong card buddy

I know pc hardware names can be confusing but it happens to me a lot. I can barily understand intel's naming for there cpu's

[Otto_iii]

37 minutes ago, person223 said:

i am buying the non xt modle

the MSI is bad, avoid it, yes they improved some of it but there is no way of knowing if you are getting a original or somewhat fixed model

 

 

Both the superior XFX duel fan and Reference cards are going for >$350 on multiple online retailers right now (amazon, new egg etc), i'd go for either of those.  Yes, the blower card genuinely is a better option, promise you.  Even if the card didn't malfunction early due to overheating GDDR6 etc (which is a risk with it), its one of the loudest cards out there.  The design issues of the XT carry over to 5700 models, the GPU temp may be cooler (assuming you don't flash it) with a 5700 but memory will still be hot, it will run loud as hell trying to cool itself. 

[person223]

3 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

the MSI is bad, avoid it, yes they improved some of it but there is no way of knowing if you are getting a original or somewhat fixed model

 

 

Both the superior XFX duel fan and Reference cards are going for >$350 on multiple online retailers right now (amazon, new egg etc), i'd go for either of those.  Yes, the blower card genuinely is a better option, promise you.  Even if the card didn't malfunction early due to overheating GDDR6 etc (which is a risk with it), its one of the loudest cards out there.  The design issues of the XT carry over to 5700 models, the GPU temp may be cooler (assuming you don't flash it) with a 5700 but memory will still be hot, it will run loud as hell trying to cool itself. 

Thanks but i am not buying a xt modle i am buying a not xt modle so this video is pointless

[Otto_iii]

4 minutes ago, person223 said:

Thanks but i am not buying a xt modle i am buying a not xt modle so this video is pointless

cooler, and it associated problems are the same, only difference is the size of the silicon die (XT is 10% larger roughly) and the vbios configuration

[person223]

Just now, Otto_iii said:

cooler, and it associated problems are the same, only difference is the size of the silicon die (XT is 10% larger roughly) and the vbios configuration

k thx

[person223]

22 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

cooler, and it associated problems are the same, only difference is the size of the silicon die (XT is 10% larger roughly) and the vbios configuration

what is the best 5700 not xt for 350$ I want the card to produce little noise

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, person223 said:

what is the best 5700 not xt for 350$ I want the card to produce little noise

Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 GAMING OC 8G

[Otto_iii]

21 minutes ago, person223 said:

what is the best 5700 not xt for 350$ I want the card to produce little noise

I'll give a few options but spoiler is last one is best for noise.  (edit) The one mentioned in post above

This is best value out of the "better" cards, still quiet from reviews ive read, not the best though, but good. 339$
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11294-01-20G-Radeon-Backplate-Graphics/dp/B07W954YN9/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-3

(its pricier on NewEgg so not gonna link it)
 

I have cheaper standard version of this(i don't see it listed on amazon atm), this specific "Red Dragon" version has 2x vbios, can be toggled from Silent to OC mode.  The duel bios is also useful if you want to try your hand at flashing the Vbios to a XT model, usually this is safe to do, but in this case if you did fail flashing it you could just run other bios
https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dragon-Radeon-5700-Graphics/dp/B07WRVWNMY/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-5
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product

  Gamers Nexus actually reviewed this specific model

this is more basic version i have, (350$) before a BIOS flash pushing the clocks and increasing the voltage (thus heat), it was super quiet, now is acceptably quiet, but doubt its the quietest model out there.   I chose this one because i have a smaller MATX case and needed a 2-slot card 


This is likely the quietest overall 5700 in that price range (360$), worth the extra few bucks if noise is a primary concern. 
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-256-Bit-Gv-R57GAMING-OC-8GD/dp/B07W821Z6C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-4
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-gv-r57gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932209?Description=Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Gaming OC&cm_re=Gigabyte_Radeon_Rx_5700_Gaming_OC-_-14-932-209-_-Product

Triple fan cards are almost always best option if noise is your biggest concern. 

I mentioned the XFX DD Ultra in other post, its the cheapest AIB 5700 at moment but if noise is a primary concern i'd get any of the other 3, Gigabyte Gaming OC if 360$ isn't too much, but if its not available the other 2-3 models are good, siding towards the Any of the duel fan Powercolor cards (Red Dragon, or not)

[person223]

13 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

On amazong

This is best value out of the "better" cards, still quiet from reviews ive read, not the best though, but good. 339$
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11294-01-20G-Radeon-Backplate-Graphics/dp/B07W954YN9/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-3

(its pricier on NewEgg so not gonna link it)
 

I have cheaper standard version of this(i don't see it listed on amazon atm), this specific "Red Dragon" version has 2x vbios, can be toggled from Silent to OC mode.  The duel bios is also useful if you want to try your hand at flashing the Vbios to a XT model, usually this is safe to do, but in this case if you did fail flashing it you could just run other bios
https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dragon-Radeon-5700-Graphics/dp/B07WRVWNMY/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-5
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product

  Gamers Nexus actually reviewed this specific model

this is more basic version i have, (350$) before a BIOS flash pushing the clocks and increasing the voltage (thus heat), it was super quiet, now is acceptably quiet, but doubt its the quietest model out there.   I chose this one because i have a smaller MATX case and needed a 2-slot card 


This is likely the quietest overall 5700 in that price range (360$), worth the extra few bucks if noise is a primary concern. 
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-256-Bit-Gv-R57GAMING-OC-8GD/dp/B07W821Z6C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-4
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-gv-r57gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932209?Description=Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Gaming OC&cm_re=Gigabyte_Radeon_Rx_5700_Gaming_OC-_-14-932-209-_-Product


I mentioned the XFX DD Ultra, its cheapest AIB 5700 at moment but if noise is a primary concern i'd get any of the other 3, Gigabyte Gaming OC if 360$ isn't too much, but if its not available the other 2-3 models are good, siding towards the Any of the duel fan Powercolor cards (Red Dragon, or not)

What about the msi evoke oc that card is very quiet do you think that is good or bad also how much is 50db is it loud or queit

[person223]

16 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

On amazong

This is best value out of the "better" cards, still quiet from reviews ive read, not the best though, but good. 339$
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11294-01-20G-Radeon-Backplate-Graphics/dp/B07W954YN9/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-3

(its pricier on NewEgg so not gonna link it)
 

I have cheaper standard version of this(i don't see it listed on amazon atm), this specific "Red Dragon" version has 2x vbios, can be toggled from Silent to OC mode.  The duel bios is also useful if you want to try your hand at flashing the Vbios to a XT model, usually this is safe to do, but in this case if you did fail flashing it you could just run other bios
https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dragon-Radeon-5700-Graphics/dp/B07WRVWNMY/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-5
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product

  Gamers Nexus actually reviewed this specific model

this is more basic version i have, (350$) before a BIOS flash pushing the clocks and increasing the voltage (thus heat), it was super quiet, now is acceptably quiet, but doubt its the quietest model out there.   I chose this one because i have a smaller MATX case and needed a 2-slot card 


This is likely the quietest overall 5700 in that price range (360$), worth the extra few bucks if noise is a primary concern. 
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-256-Bit-Gv-R57GAMING-OC-8GD/dp/B07W821Z6C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-4
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-gv-r57gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932209?Description=Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Gaming OC&cm_re=Gigabyte_Radeon_Rx_5700_Gaming_OC-_-14-932-209-_-Product


I mentioned the XFX DD Ultra, its cheapest AIB 5700 at moment but if noise is a primary concern i'd get any of the other 3, Gigabyte Gaming OC if 360$ isn't too much, but if its not available the other 2-3 models are good, siding towards the Any of the duel fan Powercolor cards (Red Dragon, or not)

Also Amazon graphics cards have no free game wich i don't like

[Otto_iii]

No, iirc i believe they fixed the problems with early models, but its usually not possible to tell if vendor is selling updated (fixed) model, or original ones with thermal and noise issues (early models ran nearly as loud as reference blower card)

Gigabyte RX 5700 Gaming OC is easily the most solid model, there shouldn't be any weird issues to potentially worry about and its already one of the quietest cards on the market. 

[person223]

1 minute ago, Otto_iii said:

No, iirc i believe they fixed the problems with early models, but its usually not possible to tell if vendor is selling updated (fixed) model, or original ones with thermal and noise issues (early models ran nearly as loud as reference blower card)

Gigabyte RX 5700 Gaming OC is easily the most solid model, there shouldn't be any weird issues to potentially worry about and its already one of the quietest cards on the market. 

But Gigabyte one is sold out on newegg and that means no free game so I can't buy it from amazon because it does not come with free game. Pick a diffrenet card please

[Otto_iii]

29 minutes ago, person223 said:

Also Amazon graphics cards have no free game wich i don't like

Then just get the PowerColor Red Dragon, run it with switch toggled to Silent if you are very worried about noise, or likewise run it toggled to OC if its quiet enough for you and you want a few more FPS
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product

I linked the Gamers Nexus review of it above. 

I own the cheaper base model duel fan from Powercolor, almost identical if not identical fan/cooler design, these cards in stock configuration, if not OC'd/Bios flashed etc really don't make a lot of noise at all, i couldn't hear them over my case fans (that said i have pretty basic pwm case fans, not noctua's or anything.)  Likewise PowerColor has good reputation so far as build quality/reliability etc. 

With a BIOS flash and manual OC, running way hotter then stock, i can run it around 2400rpm/44% fixed fan speed (44% in wattman, GPU-Z reads it at 66%, 2400rpm eitherway) where i can't personally hear it over case fans. After 20 minutes of stress test GPU never exceeded 75C, Junction Hotspot 93C, Memory 88C
 

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If you want to know why i personally didn't get the Red Dragon, the base Powercolor Duel Fan was 30$ discounted to 320$ (Was special MicroCenter Black Friday deal) when i bought it, the Red Dragon was not, at current prices i'd just get the Dragon for 10$ more. 

[person223]

22 hours ago, Otto_iii said:

Then just get the PowerColor Red Dragon, run it with switch toggled to Silent if you are very worried about noise, or likewise run it toggled to OC if its quiet enough for you and you want a few more FPS
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product

I linked the Gamers Nexus review of it above. 

I own the cheaper base model duel fan from Powercolor, almost identical if not identical fan/cooler design, these cards in stock configuration, if not OC'd/Bios flashed etc really don't make a lot of noise at all, i couldn't hear them over my case fans (that said i have pretty basic pwm case fans, not noctua's or anything.)  Likewise PowerColor has good reputation so far as build quality/reliability etc. 

With a BIOS flash and manual OC, running way hotter then stock, i can run it around 2400rpm/44% fixed fan speed (44% in wattman, GPU-Z reads it at 66%, 2400rpm eitherway) where i can't personally hear it over case fans. After 20 minutes of stress test GPU never exceeded 75C, Junction Hotspot 93C, Memory 88C
 

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If you want to know why i personally didn't get the Red Dragon, the base Powercolor Duel Fan was 30$ discounted to 320$ (Was special MicroCenter Black Friday deal) when i bought it, the Red Dragon was not, at current prices i'd just get the Dragon for 10$ more. 

Is 650 watt power supply good for 2600 and rx 5700

[Otto_iii]

Just now, person223 said:

Is 650 watt power supply good for 2600 and rx 5700

absolutely fine

[person223]

Just now, Otto_iii said:

absolutely fine

If you don't mind me asking

How many hours do you spend on this fourm a day

[Otto_iii]

4 minutes ago, person223 said:

If you don't mind me asking

How many hours do you spend on this fourm a day

too many, i need to get a job at like a bestbuy or something tbhq