i7 3770 to Ryzen 7 2700 upgrade?

[Ilegator]

Hello. I just wanted to know if it is worth the upgrade from an i7 3770 to a Ryzen 7 2700 (I already have it, I'll have to pay for 16GB DDR4 RAM+Motherboard). 

Is it worth it to buy RAM+Motherboard just to use the Ryzen 7 2700?

GPU: GTX 1660

PSU: Corsair TX750M 

[Mister Woof]

Edit: just noticed you already have it.

 

Get a B450 Tomohawk and 16gb of ddr4 3200 and yeah i think its worth it.

 

 

[Skipple]

In general I would say yes, absolutely. You will pay around $200 for a massive upgrade.

 

All depends on what you plan on using you PC for.

[Founders]

It's a considerable upgrade, you have the CPU already so you may as well go all the way. 

[Ilegator]

7 minutes ago, Skipple said:

In general I would say yes, absolutely. You will pay around $200 for a massive upgrade.

 

All depends on what you plan on using you PC for.

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

[Founders]

5 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

It won't really make much of a difference for gaming but you will see a pretty significant boost in multi-threaded work loads. 

[xg32]

20 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

it has the potential to be passive provided

 

1. u get fast ram+slightly oc the 2700, 

2. the apps use more than 4 cores  (most of the newer and upcoming AAA titles)

 

i estimate with ddr3200 ram and a 4.1ghz oc it'll be about 40% upgrade on single core apps, add more for apps that use more than 4 cores.

the 2700 also works well with ur existing gpu/psu etc. i'd say it's worth the 200-250 u pay for the upgrade just for QoL purposes if you use ur pc often.

[FredyBobJoe]

Is all you are doing gaming? Will you be doing anything else more cpu thread intensive?

[SkilledRebuilds]

Many videos exist already.

Type i7 3770 vs Ryzen 2700 and scroll thru results of Gaming comparisons.

 

Bit more in depth..

2600k and 3770k are barely different day to day, and here is GNJesus explaining it all.

 

[Mister Woof]

You will want to OC the 2700 for sure though because stock settings it suuuuucks.

 

Looked 3.4ghz most of the time. You should be able to get 4.0+ghz pretty easily and that will make it pretty much the same as a 2700x

[Ilegator]

7 hours ago, FredyBobJoe said:

Is all you are doing gaming? Will you be doing anything else more cpu thread intensive?

Is not all I'll be doing but it's all I care about when building a PC

[Otto_iii]

7 hours ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Bit more in depth..

2600k and 3770k are barely different day to day, and here is GNJesus explaining it all.

 

There is some obvious, huge difference in certain games there

If we are taking a OC'd 2600k (4.7ghz OC at that) as a stand in for the 3770, the minimums were like twice as bad as with the 2600/2700 in many of the titles, indicating bad stuttering/hitching, average fps was often 20% or so lower.  Also, since that video came out more modern games, especially ones using DX12, have become even more demanding so far as being core/thread hungry, 6 cores often being a safe minimum for smooth gameplay. 

3770 isn't a horrible CPU if you are super strapped for cash, i have a personal spot in my heart for 200-300$ OEM Dells, HP, Acers etc being turned into gaming rigs with simply GPU+PSU upgrade, but if its possible to upgrade they are infact pretty bad compared to a 2700, especially looking into more recent, and likely most if not all future titles. 
 

48 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is not all I'll be doing but it's all I care about when building a PC

Cool thing will be if you setup a decent 2700 system now, you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when it comes out next year if you want to, so it wouldn't be a terrible investment eitherway, next years future processors will be supported by said AM4 socket motherboards, (a320,b350,x370,b450,x470,x570) , so if you already have decent ram+mobo (90-120$ b450s recommended) then you have a easy upgrade path in the future.

There is a list of how motherboards rank in this forum, likewise this list specific to AM4 that personally i find is easier to search(ctrl+f) through, feel free to reference it if you go shopping around.  Anything with "100A" rating is likely a good buy. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

[Ilegator]

56 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

There is some obvious, huge difference in certain games there

If we are taking a OC'd 2600k (4.7ghz OC at that) as a stand in for the 3770, the minimums were like twice as bad as with the 2600/2700 in many of the titles, indicating bad stuttering/hitching, average fps was often 20% or so lower.  Also, since that video came out more modern games, especially ones using DX12, have become even more demanding so far as being core/thread hungry, 6 cores often being a safe minimum for smooth gameplay. 

3770 isn't a horrible CPU if you are super strapped for cash, i have a personal spot in my heart for 200-300$ OEM Dells, HP, Acers etc being turned into gaming rigs with simply GPU+PSU upgrade, but if its possible to upgrade they are infact pretty bad compared to a 2700, especially looking into more recent, and likely most if not all future titles. 
 

Cool thing will be if you setup a decent 2700 system now, you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when it comes out next year if you want to, so it wouldn't be a terrible investment eitherway, next years future processors will be supported by said AM4 socket motherboards, (a320,b350,x370,b450,x470,x570) , so if you already have decent ram+mobo (90-120$ b450s recommended) then you have a easy upgrade path in the future.

There is a list of how motherboards rank in this forum, likewise this list specific to AM4 that personally i find is easier to search(ctrl+f) through, feel free to reference it if you go shopping around.  Anything with "100A" rating is likely a good buy. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Thank you for your answer, you clarified my thoughts a lot.

I might should've said it before, but the Ryzen has two broken pins.

I've already tried to use it but it won't POST.

I wanted to try to fix it but since I don't want to risk a new expensive motherboard when testing it, I was thinking about buying a secondhanded 30€ Gigabyte GA-A320M S2H V2. Is that a bad idea? I'd borrow a friend's DDR4 RAM and I'd use my power supply to test it. 

My idea is to use two pins from and old AMD CPU I already have and try them to make contact with the socket. Linus has a video where he manages to do it!

 

If it POSTs, I'd buy RAM and I would use that cheap motherboard until I find it necessary to upgrade.

 

[Otto_iii]

11 hours ago, Ilegator said:

I might should've said it before, but the Ryzen has two broken pins.

I've already tried to use it but it won't POST.

I wanted to try to fix it but since I don't want to risk a new expensive motherboard when testing it, I was thinking about buying a secondhanded 30€ Gigabyte GA-A320M S2H V2. Is that a bad idea? I'd borrow a friend's DDR4 RAM and I'd use my power supply to test it. 

You could try booting with a super cheap a320, but i wouldnt run it on that board, now im less sure.

The pins are completely broken off? not bent but completely sheared off, correct?  If they are just bent that can be fixed fairly reliably on most Ryzen CPUs, with care and the right tools (really tiny flat head screw driver.)  TechYesCity recently did a video on that, but i'm assuming it won't apply as you genuinely meant 'broken off'

[Ilegator]

1 hour ago, Otto_iii said:

You could try booting with a super cheap a320, but i wouldnt run it on that board, now im less sure.

The pins are completely broken off? not bent but completely sheared off, correct?  If they are just bent that can be fixed fairly reliably on most Ryzen CPUs, with care and the right tools (really tiny flat head screw driver.)  TechYesCity recently did a video on that, but i'm assuming it won't apply as you genuinely meant 'broken off'

What's the worst thing that could happen to the CPU or other components if I used that motherboard? 

Yes, they are completely broken off.  

[Otto_iii]

42 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

What's the worst thing that could happen to the CPU or other components if I used that motherboard? 

Yes, they are completely broken off.  

The power delivery,VRMs, is very insufficient.  Like worst thing?  After running PC at load for awhile one of the VRMs goes "poof", literally blow up. This shouldn't kill other components but will kill the board.  It really isn't recommended for use with a 8-core

[Mister Woof]

This changes everything

 

You said it wouldn't post? On what board? Do you know that board works?

[Ilegator]

10 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

This changes everything

You said it wouldn't post? On what board? Do you know that board works?

The board worked fine. The problem was the CPU.

[Otto_iii]

i dono 3770 sounding real good rn tbh, please mention such problems earlier in future posts. 

[Mister Woof]

4 hours ago, Ilegator said:

The board worked fine. The problem was the CPU.

Ok, so if you know the board worked, I wouldn't waste more money on more boards to test this broken cpu on.

 

That was what I was getting at