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So it wouldn be wise to use the msi x570 mpg gaming wifi edge with a 3700x overclocked? On ambient cooling for vrm and aio for cpu?

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1 minute ago, Craxton said:

So it wouldn be wise to use the msi x570 mpg gaming wifi edge with a 3700x overclocked? On ambient cooling for vrm and aio for cpu?

You shouldn't run into any problems with just a 3700X, but unless you already have that board, I'd definitely just get something else.

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6 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

You shouldn't run into any problems with just a 3700X, but unless you already have that board, I'd definitely just get something else.

Yeah I already have that board. With a 1600af oced to 4.1 ghz llc4 1.28 volts. With...3600c17 ram (tightttt) timings. And a 2tb nvme with a few 500tb ssd

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I'm really lost on what motherboard to buy on a 5900x, my first option was the tomahawk x570 but it came defective (fan of chipset at 100% always), but for the price I don't see anything else... any recommendations?

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54 minutes ago, ExTeR said:

I'm really lost on what motherboard to buy on a 5900x, my first option was the tomahawk x570 but it came defective (fan of chipset at 100% always), but for the price I don't see anything else... any recommendations?

Just RMA it?

 

asus TUF boards and Gigabyte Aorus boards are good if you want X570, plenty of decent B550 options as well. Just make sure they have BIOS flashback

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20 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Just RMA it?

 

asus TUF boards and Gigabyte Aorus boards are good if you want X570, plenty of decent B550 options as well. Just make sure they have BIOS flashback

Hi.

could you please recommend cheap motherboard x570 for new ryzen 5900x and RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX

 

 

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS is good? 

 

Thanks.

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2 minutes ago, lab185 said:

Hi.

could you please recommend cheap motherboard x570 for new ryzen 5900x and RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX

 

 

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS is good? 

 

Thanks.

The list is literally there, I dont know where you buy from so I cant check prices for you either.

 

5900x is rated just like the 3900x, so you have to go on or above Tier C especially if you care about overclocking. X570 isnt cheap in general so if you're price sensitive, go for B550 or other chipsets

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Newbie malaysia said:

Can i take it that a x570 tomahawk is the right pair for ryzen 9 5950x

The tomahawk will handle the 16 core just fine, It's quite a solid board if you want to go for it. 

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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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thanks. nearly bought a x570 crosshair viii - i dable a bit of overclocking but nothing serious. And I am using a deepcool assassin III. 

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Hello! will i have any problems if i buy a X570 Tomahawk and use 4+4 cpu power connector ? because my psu only has 1 8pin that can be split to 4+4, but the X570 has 1x8pin and a 1x4pin. my CPU is R7 3800XT and i wont OC it i expect precision boost to give nice clocks since its a XT cpu. will my pc shut down or not boot or some other issues ?

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1 minute ago, Andre00x said:

will i have any problems if i buy a X570 Tomahawk and use 4+4 cpu power connector ?

No, You only need the 8 pin, a single 8 pin can easily provide 384w of power which is enough for any am4 cpu, the other one is used for heavy overclocking like ln2, which under ambient, you can't really do anyways. 

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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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Just now, Haro said:

No, You only need the 8 pin, a single 8 pin can easily provide 384w of power which is enough for any am4 cpu, the other one is used for heavy overclocking like ln2, which under ambient, you can't really do anyways. 

I can also go for a B550 Tomahawk wich is $20 cheaper im not sure wich 1 to get i think of the x570 its classified better but also people say it has a bad fan on the chipset or whatever.

My options are

$190 B550 Tomahawk

or

$210 X570 Tomahawk

both new on box from shop in my city not buying online.

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4 minutes ago, Andre00x said:

$190 B550 Tomahawk

or

$210 X570 Tomahawk

The x570 tomahawk is technically better, but honestly both will handle the 3800x (or the xt) just fine, either of them will do the job. The difference between x570 and b550 is that on b550 the lanes that are wired to the cpu are gen 4 but the lanes that are wired to the chipset are gen 3, on x570, the lanes that are wired to the cpu and to the chipset are gen 4. 

6 minutes ago, Andre00x said:

but also people say it has a bad fan on the chipset or whatever.

It's just the chipset fan that is there to cool it, some people do get bothered by it. 

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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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Hello, and thanks for this list! I'm building my first pc and the massive amount of MOBO's can be overwhelming. It is definitely the component I have spent the most time checking out.

 

I was set to get a tomahawk b550 according to your list as it seems to be the best bang for your money, but I've seen  as many reviews that worship it, as ones saying it is overrated, and should get a gaming X570 Gaming Edge Wifi for a similar price or an Asus ROG strix b550-f Gaming. I understand it may depend on usage, but can't seem to find any major differences, could you recommend one? Maybe all of them are overkill for my build?

 

Main components  are zen 5 5600x (maybe a3600x if there are good deals on BF) and rtx 3070 ( maybe an amd if I can get my hands on launch day)

 

My usage is mainly gonna be 2k gaming at 165hz and image editing, but not much 3d.

 

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts you may want to share.

Thank you

 
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2 minutes ago, dudedood9 said:

Main components  are zen 5 5600x and rtx 3070

Budget? and location and currency? the x570 gaming edge wifi is far worse than the tomahawk, the strix f is a decent board and so is the b550 tomahawk. 

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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Haro said:

Budget? and location and currency? the x570 gaming edge wifi is far worse than the tomahawk, the strix f is a decent board and so is the b550 tomahawk. 

All of them are currently under 200 euros, though a 160 euro price range would be great as prices seem to be falling hard. would the tomahawk x570 be a great upgrade, or not worth it for my usage? ( I think I'll be able to snag it for the 160 euro ballpark) I'm in France.

And could you tell me what makes the gaming edge so bad? On paper they don't look that different.

Thanks for the advice, and for your time :)

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8 minutes ago, dudedood9 said:

I'm in France.

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Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard €179.99 @ Amazon France
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €179.99
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Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €136.66 @ Amazon France
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  Total €136.66
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Motherboard Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €186.99 @ Amazon France
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  Total €186.99
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Or the b550 strix f or the x570 tomahawk, all of these boards are good. 

9 minutes ago, dudedood9 said:

And could you tell me what makes the gaming edge so bad?

It's vrm is quite subpart especially for the price, it'll technically be fine for a 5600x, but you can get better boards for  cheaper/ the same price usually.

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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard €179.99 @ Amazon France
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €179.99
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Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €136.66 @ Amazon France
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €136.66
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Motherboard Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €186.99 @ Amazon France
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €186.99
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Or the b550 strix f or the x570 tomahawk, all of these boards are good. 

It's vrm is quite subpart especially for the price, it'll technically be fine for a 5600x, but you can get better boards for  cheaper/ the same price usually.

You are the MVP, super fast response, and more choices! I'm  going to set alarms for all the ones you recommended and I'll snag the first one to be on sale!

Again, thank you

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MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI AM4 ATX vs ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus AM4 ATX AMD X570 

 

Both of them have offers in UK, eigther AC Valhala on MSI , or 40cashback on ASUS.

 

This is for a 5600X .

 

Or should i go for something else 

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Will I see any difference if i change to a x570 crosshair viii. I bought a x570 tomahawk - worried as my pcie ssd (gigabyte (not the nvme kind) is close to the gpu. Worried the GPU may be choked. 

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@Radu05 Both overkill, could get something cheaper like tier C or B.

 

@Newbie malaysia the GPU wont be choked no matter what board and M.2 SSD you have on the board, it doesnt work like that. As for whether the SSD will get warmer, my assumption is that warm air from the graphics card (even if the GPU is at 80C, heatsink exhaust will only be around 45C) is better than no air at all, so idle temperature could be higher but full load temperature wont be so high, especially if the graphics card isnt doing anything but the fan is still spinning.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

@Radu05 Both overkill, could get something cheaper like tier C or B.

 

@Newbie malaysia the GPU wont be choked no matter what board and M.2 SSD you have on the board, it doesnt work like that. As for whether the SSD will get warmer, my assumption is that warm air from the graphics card (even if the GPU is at 80C, heatsink exhaust will only be around 45C) is better than no air at all, so idle temperature could be higher but full load temperature wont be so high, especially if the graphics card isnt doing anything but the fan is still spinning.

@Jurrunio What about b550 tomahawk wifi or the b550 ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS wifi ... both cheaper .

I must say i won't do any any OC with the 5600x , il also buy a 6800XT and a 32gb ram (4x8gb for the ryzen). It will be gaming pc.

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Hello !

I just got my hands on a 5900x   !

what would be the best for heavy overclocking  (24/7) on a custom water build  and gaming ? 

I am in France and my budget is 250€ approx 

Thanks for helping everyone !
 

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2 minutes ago, Radu05 said:

@Jurrunio What about b550 tomahawk wifi or the b550 ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS wifi ... both cheaper .

I must say i won't do any any OC with the 5600x , il also buy a 6800XT and a 32gb ram (4x8gb for the ryzen). It will be gaming pc.

Ryzen 5000 CPUs share power ratings as 3000 series with the same core count, so yeah you could go much worse and it would still be ok. It depends on what else you want on a board, say USB-C on the rear IO section or USB-C front pane header support.

 

2 minutes ago, NewNoYou said:

Hello !

I just got my hands on a 5900x   !

what would be the best for heavy overclocking  (24/7) on a custom water build  and gaming ? 

I am in France and my budget is 250€ approx 

Thanks for helping everyone !
 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=145,138&sort=price&page=1

 

MSI B550 Tomahawk seems like the best performer out of boards in your budget.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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