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Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Could be as simple as a flag to the controller telling it to shutdown. 

Ah i was talking about temp monitoring but as for over temp protection, that's interesting.

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5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

On extra circuitry on the board or what?

because i know that the sic639 does integrate some form of temperature monitoring but not sure about the sic654.

Pretty much all DrMOS power stages, to my knowledge, should have thermal sensing and therefore OTP and other protections, even if they're not readable through software.

So they're dumber than smart power stages, but not dumb enough to kill themselves by overheating or whatever, like some other MOSFETs on boards that shall not be named *cough* Asrock *cough* X470 Master SLI *cough*.

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10 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

So they're dumber than smart power stages, but not dumb enough to kill themselves by overheating or whatever,

Yea but actually the SIC639 does integrate temperature monitoring so it is less dumb than others, though one difference between it and the 634, is that the 634 can handle higher switching frequency and the 639 has temp monitoring of some sort. :D

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so this is all AMD CPU's motherboards

but where is INTEL  motherboards????

i found the first version of this post it has just LGA 1151 V2 and 2066 CPU socket

so where is the 10th gen CPU motherboards???

i mean the LGA 1200 motherboards?????

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4 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

mean the LGA 1200 motherboards????

What boards are you looking at specifically?

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

What boards are you looking at specifically?

i'm just asking in general about 1200's socket motherboards

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1 minute ago, M.R_KING said:

1200's socket motherboards

Yes what board specifically? 

If you're just talking About generally comet lake boards.

Are some videos to watch for them. 

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1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yes what board specifically? 

If you're just talking About generally comet lake boards.

Are some videos to watch for them. 

thanks that's what i need

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OK, I need some help determining if I'm dumb or not.

 

I got into a debate on r/buildapc with another poster about the MSI Z490-A Pro:

 

https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/io8din/new_gaming_build_for_2080_ti/

 

According to Buildzoid in this video and this spreadsheet it's a 6-phase with no doublers but extra components per phase. The other poster claims it's a 3-phase with doublers.

 

I'm willing to conceded that I'm just ignorant of what the other poster means by this, as I'm not by any means an expert. Is this actually a stealth 3*2 board?

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17 minutes ago, Satan_Prometheus said:

it's a 6-phase with no doublers but extra components per phase. The other poster claims it's a 3-phase with doublers.

it's a 6 phase with 12 4C029N in pairs and 12 4C024N in pairs.

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45 minutes ago, Satan_Prometheus said:

According to Buildzoid in this video and this spreadsheet it's a 6-phase with no doublers but extra components per phase. The other poster claims it's a 3-phase with doublers.

 

I'm willing to conceded that I'm just ignorant of what the other poster means by this, as I'm not by any means an expert. Is this actually a stealth 3*2 board?

It's a fat 6, not a fat 3 nor obese (i.e. 4 sets of mosfets per phase) 3

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Just curious what happened, why was B550 Aorus Elite ATX speculated to be A tier, but ended up being Tier D (I believe)? Was looking at getting that board because it seemed to have good value for the price. Also I say believe because of the "Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same." notifier, so I figured the mATX was similar.

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48 minutes ago, Petalesharo said:

Just curious what happened, why was B550 Aorus Elite ATX speculated to be A tier, but ended up being Tier D (I believe)? 

They are very different underneath the heatsink. ATX one is actually not in the full list atm but you can expect it to be tier A just like the ATX Aorus Pro. Tier D one is the mATX version

 

1 hour ago, Petalesharo said:

Was looking at getting that board because it seemed to have good value for the price. Also I say believe because of the "Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same." notifier, so I figured the mATX was similar.

It is specified

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Caught up in the 3080 craze, I decided to look at boards. I couldn't find the Tuf B550-Plus (ATX) on the list. Is it the same as the mATX in terms of tier?

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1 hour ago, FurionMoneygrabber said:

Caught up in the 3080 craze, I decided to look at boards. I couldn't find the Tuf B550-Plus (ATX) on the list. Is it the same as the mATX in terms of tier?

Yes they are the same

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Anything about the Asus ROG B550-A? Thinking about getting it due to the theme im going for but do not see any reviews. Any thoughts?

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12 minutes ago, DankisWeeb said:

Anything about the Asus ROG B550-A? Thinking about getting it due to the theme im going for but do not see any reviews. Any thoughts?

It's just a Strix B550-F with different coloured heatsinks. Solid board for ~$180.

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Hi guys - thought i should on this forum before making a choice. I'm deciding between an ASUS B550-F ROG Strix or MSI x570 Tomahawk. 

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21 minutes ago, dh15529 said:

Hi guys - thought i should on this forum before making a choice. I'm deciding between an ASUS B550-F ROG Strix or MSI x570 Tomahawk. 

X570 Tomahawk is better, but I dont know how much you pay for them

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 Tomahawk is better, but I dont know how much you pay for them

both are the same price! 

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 Tomahawk is better, but I dont know how much you pay for them

Also - not sure if u would know but is the difference between the realtek 1200A (MSI) and 1220A (asus one) noticeable?

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3 hours ago, dh15529 said:

Also - not sure if u would know but is the difference between the realtek 1200A (MSI) and 1220A (asus one) noticeable?

I dont, but the consensus on audio is that if the codec has an effect on your experience, you should jump straight to a dedicated sound card. Onboard audio codec just hasnt improved that much.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 hours ago, dh15529 said:

both are the same price! 

Yea the tomahawk is the better one out of the two, as for the audio, 1220 and 1200 won't really make a difference, and if you care a lot about audio a lot, you can just get a dedicated sound card which will probably sound better than even the alc1220. 

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 So here I asked about motherboards with 5 slot spacing for GPUs, are there any other choices that isn't the Godlike and at least Tier A, as good as my current Asus Tuf x570 board? Also preferably ATX

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I have a 3600 overclocked 4.2@1.18 which shows EDC drawing 120A on a ASRock B450M Pro4. Is it safe?

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