9100F or 9350KF for value ?

[Kaparoo]

Hello guys, i'm new here.

I would love some advice to choose between these two cpus.

I know how to overclock but is it worth paying almost twice the price of the 9100F (80€) for the 9350Kf (150€)?

I'm going to use it purely for gaming, this is why i choose a i3.

Also, what are the realistic stable overclocking performance of the 9350kf ?

Thank you in advance !

 

[Bruno_A]

What's your current situation? Do you have a motherboard, already?

[boggy77]

6 minutes ago, Kaparoo said:

Hello guys, i'm new here.

I would love some advice to choose between these two cpus.

I know how to overclock but is it worth paying almost twice the price of the 9100F (80€) for the 9350Kf (150€)?

I'm going to use it purely for gaming, this is why i choose a i3.

Also, what are the realistic stable overclocking performance of the 9350kf ?

Thank you in advance !

 

ryzen 5 2600 is on par with i5 9400f and is the same price as the 9100f.

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, Kaparoo said:

I know how to overclock but is it worth paying almost twice the price of the 9100F (80€) for the 9350Kf (150€)?

I'm going to use it purely for gaming, this is why i choose a i3.

neither is worth it at all or the price. 

 

something like the ryzen 5 1600 would be a better choice. 

[Kaparoo]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

ryzen 5 2600 is on par with i5 9400f and is the same price as the 9100f.

For some reason, the ryzen 2600 is 130€ in my contry, it does not seem like that atractive of a choice for that price

[DoctorNick]

Check this out. vs 7700k @5ghz- It performs bad. In games that uses more than 4 threads.

 

[Bruno_A]

Just now, Kaparoo said:

For some reason, the ryzen 2600 is 130€ in my contry, it does not seem like that atractive of a choice for that price

You don't have to go with that one, you could go with the cheaper 1600. It's not as good, yes, but the AM4 platform is much more attractive.

[Kaparoo]

4 minutes ago, Bruno_A said:

What's your current situation? Do you have a motherboard, already?

I don't have a motherboard.

I already have everything else, 16go of ddr4, 1060, etc

[Kaparoo]

Sorry it's hard to reply fast but I apreciate all of the reply very much. Thank you for helping me.

[Bruno_A]

Just now, Kaparoo said:

I don't have a motherboard.

I already have everything else, 16go of ddr4, 1060, etc

Then, lucky you, get yourself a half-decent AM4 motherboard and a Ryzen chip. I would spend the extra, and get a Ryzen 5 3600, which is awesome for gaming, being on par with a Core i7 8700K in a lot of games, or, if that's too expensive for you, you can get a cheaper (and slower, obviously) Ryzen 5 1st or 2nd gen.

[Kaparoo]

3 minutes ago, Bruno_A said:

You don't have to go with that one, you could go with the cheaper 1600. It's not as good, yes, but the AM4 platform is much more attractive.

I can't find the 1600 on a reputable website, sorry. I only found the 1600X for 225€. It's out of my budget.

[homeap5]

Ryzen, ryzen, ryzen, get Ryzen, Ryzen is the king...

 

Not so long time ago you all recommend everyone i7-8700k and then price was good for you guys.

 

If someone wants Intel, then Intel will be good choice. 9400F in games (you can find on youtube) is similar to 2600 or even 3600. If someone only plays games and looking for cheap CPU + card like 1060 or 1660 (or RX580), 9400F will be cheaper choice than R5 3600 (for example). And of course - it not last that long, will be outdated sooner, but hey - many people here upgrade their computers every few years, so if we're talking about price NOW - for games 9400F will be cheaper than R5 3600.

[Bruno_A]

1 minute ago, Kaparoo said:

I can't find the 1600 on a reputable website, sorry. I only found the 1600X for 225€. It's out of my budget.

What country?

[Kaparoo]

6 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Check this out. vs 7700k @5ghz- It performs bad. In games that uses more than 4 threads.

 

I'm not planning on playing on AAA games, It does not matter that much for me. I still apreciate the reply.

I'm sorry i did not say that in my original post.

[Kaparoo]

Just now, Bruno_A said:

What country?

France. I don't understand why it is so hard to find the most popular cheaper ryzen but it is.

[homeap5]

 

As you see - not always Ryzen is better.

Small budget and still want to play nice games - you can choose i5 9400F (about 1-5% worse in games than R5 3600, but still better than R5 2600 for similar price).

[Bruno_A]

6 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Ryzen, ryzen, ryzen, get Ryzen, Ryzen is the king...

 

Not so long time ago you all recommend everyone i7-8700k and then price was good for you guys.

 

If someone wants Intel, then Intel will be good choice. 9400F in games (you can find on youtube) is similar to 2600 or even 3600. If someone only plays games and looking for cheap CPU + card like 1060 or 1660 (or RX580), 9400F will be cheaper choice than R5 3600 (for example). And of course - it not last that long, will be outdated sooner, but hey - many people here upgrade their computers every few years, so if we're talking about price NOW - for games 9400F will be cheaper than R5 3600.

People recomend Ryzen because it is honestly a better platform. The first and second gen chips were a bit of a disappointment in gaming performance (still great, though), and the third gen is now awesome value. One good AM4 X370 motherboard will last you a good while and has better upgrade path than a Z390 board from Intel. I first started my Ryzen build with an X370 board and a Ryzen 5 1600 and am now running, two years later, a latest-gen Ryzen 7, and didn't need to go to one of the newer X570 boards. Ryzen just has better value in general.

[boggy77]

9 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Ryzen, ryzen, ryzen, get Ryzen, Ryzen is the king...

 

Not so long time ago you all recommend everyone i7-8700k and then price was good for you guys.

 

If someone wants Intel, then Intel will be good choice. 9400F in games (you can find on youtube) is similar to 2600 or even 3600. If someone only plays games and looking for cheap CPU + card like 1060 or 1660 (or RX580), 9400F will be cheaper choice than R5 3600 (for example). And of course - it not last that long, will be outdated sooner, but hey - many people here upgrade their computers every few years, so if we're talking about price NOW - for games 9400F will be cheaper than R5 3600.

Ofc 9400 is cheaper than 3600, but that's not the comparison. The comparison is 9400 vs 2600, similar price, similar performance. But in 3 years, you can slap in a ryzen 4600 or whatever in the same motherboard for 200 euros. What will you do on intel side to upgrade to the same performance? Get the 9900 for 500 euros?

[Kaparoo]

Just now, homeap5 said:

 

As you see - not always Ryzen is better.

Small budget and still want to play nice games - you can choose i5 9400F (about 1-5% worse in games than R5 3600, but still better than R5 2600 for similar price).

The majority of the games i'm playing don't use more than 4 cores. Would it be better to have higher ghz 4 cores in my case ?

[Bruno_A]

9 minutes ago, Kaparoo said:

France. I don't understand why it is so hard to find the most popular cheaper ryzen but it is.

Use Amazon.

[homeap5]

20 minutes ago, Kaparoo said:

The majority of the games i'm playing don't use more than 4 cores. Would it be better to have higher ghz 4 cores in my case ?

Price difference is not that big, so 6 cores is recommended minimum. Unless you like to upgrade your PC very often.

Buy 9400F or R5 3600. Everything less is not worth your money imo. You save few dollars for something you buying for years.

[homeap5]

22 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Ofc 9400 is cheaper than 3600, but that's not the comparison. The comparison is 9400 vs 2600, similar price, similar performance. But in 3 years, you can slap in a ryzen 4600 or whatever in the same motherboard for 200 euros. What will you do on intel side to upgrade to the same performance? Get the 9900 for 500 euros?

I noticed that people who upgraded their PC (at least here, on this forum) mostly upgrade combo - cpu+mobo+ram. For those who wants to upgrade CPU every year - you're right. But that is only 1% of people. And they mostly have enough money to buy anything (upgrading hardware every year or two is, in my opinion, more hobby like need).

[boggy77]

2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

I noticed that people who upgraded their PC (at least here, on this forum) mostly upgrade combo - cpu+mobo+ram. For those who wants to upgrade CPU every year - you're right. But that is only 1% of people. And they mostly have enough money to buy anything (upgrading hardware every year or two is, in my opinion, more hobby like need).

It makes more financial sense to get the midrange option every 3 years (let's say the $200 cpu) than getting the high end option (the $600 cpu) and hoping it will last 6 years.

[Kaparoo]

9 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Price difference is not that big, so 6 cores is recommended minimum. Unless you like to upgrade your PC very often.

Buy 9400F or R5 3600. Everything less is not worth your money imo. You save few dollars for something you buying for years.

The 3600 is out of my budget. Are you sure the 2600 is not worth it ? it is overclockable unlike the 9400f and I know how to do it.

I don't care about the upgradability of my pc. I could not care less honestly.

[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, Kaparoo said:

The 3600 is out of my budget. Are you sure the 2600 is not worth it ? it is overclockable unlike the 9400f and I know how to do it.

I don't care about the upgradability of my pc. I could not care less honestly.

2600 is a better option than the 9400f due to the HT that it offers. 

 

I would suggest avoiding non-ht CPUs when possible to a reasonable degree.