Need help choosing a Mother Board

[Ad18o]

What motherboard would be better for overclocking. Im on a budget so i cant spend much more than 130$.

 

Asus PRIME Z390-P

MSI Z390-A PRO 

[Jurrunio]

why even Intel when you're on a budget

 

they are both poor for more than an i5

[Ad18o]

I was thinking of upgrading to an i7 or i9 after a couple months 

[Jumballi]

If you’d bought your cpu, go with the asus prime, I see 2mmore capacitors which will add like 0.0005% more performance in OCing

 

if you haven’t bought your cpu yet, go with amd, they have better value motherboards and cpu at this time in the low end.

[Jumballi]

3 minutes ago, Ad18o said:

I was thinking of upgrading to an i7 or i9 after a couple months 

I should mention that neither of these 2 can OC a i9

[Ad18o]

1 minute ago, Jumballi said:

I should mention that neither of these 2 can OC a i9

Yeah, ik, the oc capability is for my i5 before i replace it

[Kilrah]

What CPU do you have at this point?

[Ad18o]

Just now, Kilrah said:

What CPU do you have at this point?

None, this is for now and the future

[Kilrah]

You said "the oc capability is for my i5 before i replace it"... so what i5?

[Ad18o]

Just now, Ad18o said:

None, this is for now and the future

I understand Amd is better for budget however i will prob upgrade soon, i dont wanna lock myself into amd when high end intel appears to peeform better

[Ad18o]

1 minute ago, Kilrah said:

You said "the oc capability is for my i5 before i replace it"... so what i5?

9600k btw

[Jumballi]

10 minutes ago, Ad18o said:

I understand Amd is better for budget however i will prob upgrade soon, i dont wanna lock myself into amd when high end intel appears to peeform better

But the new intel cpu are going to need another motherboard. They confirmed the z470 motherboards for the 10900k already. So why buy a motherboard for a cpu now that you cannot use in the future?

[Kilrah]

Yup the upgrade makes no sense. Would cost a lot for a small upgrade to an already good system, and it's all into a dead platform.

[Ad18o]

2 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

But the new intel cpu are going to need another motherboard. They confirmed the z470 motherboards for the 10900k already. So why buy a motherboard for a cpu now that you cannot use in the future?

True, would u reccomend any amd board

[Jumballi]

A b450 + r7-2700x combo should run you about $250, and with a bios update, you can enable ryzen 3000 support, so when ryzen 4000 comes out, and if b450 doesn’t support ryzen 4000, then you can snag a discounted 3000 cpu and reap a ton of cost savings. If you’re looking for game performance, 95% of that comes from the gpu, so look for a better gpu instead of the most over the top cpu. 

[Ad18o]

1 minute ago, Jumballi said:

A b450 + r7-2700x combo should run you about $250, and with a bios update, you can enable ryzen 3000 support, so when ryzen 4000 comes out, and if b450 doesn’t support ryzen 4000, then you can snag a discounted 3000 cpu and reap a ton of cost savings. If you’re looking for game performance, 95% of that comes from the gpu, so look for a better gpu instead of the most over the top cpu. 

Is the 5700 xt enough

[Jumballi]

Just now, Ad18o said:

Is the 5700 xt enough

Enough for what?

[Ad18o]

Just now, Jumballi said:

Enough for what?

That was a bad question, is it an adequate gaming gpu or should i go with a 2060 super

[Jumballi]

Just now, Ad18o said:

That was a bad question, is it an adequate gaming gpu or should i go with a 2060 super

The 1650 is an adequate gpu for gaming, but are you aiming for 1440p? 144hz? Ultra settings? 1650 is not going to do that. The recommendation is always to spend the most you can, because future proofing is a lie, but you want the most you can get now.

with the 5700 xt, you’ll be able to play a lot of games at 1080p 144hz ultra, or maybe even 1440p 60hz high. Especially paired with the 2700x you should hit around 120-144hz in cpu intense esports titles. These are stuff you know for yourself. 
The only information I have is that you want to game, please give me both your budget and goal, and I’ll try to steer you in the right direction.

[Otto_iii]

37 minutes ago, Ad18o said:

Yeah, ik, the oc capability is for my i5 before i replace it

can you get a Gigabyte Z390 UD?, its basically the only budget Z390 worth even trying to OC with a i7 or i9 

 

Spoiler

 

 

19 minutes ago, Ad18o said:

True, would u reccomend any amd board

 

Sort by prices looking for "Ryzen 3000 Ready" boards on retailer of your choice website, see what you can find that references well against this list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Stuff like MSI Tomahawk MAX, MSI Mortar MAX, ASRock B450m Pro4, ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, ASUS Strix b450/x470, stuff atleast rated for 100A on that list are decent minimum to getting into AM4, support stock 12 core no problem and overclocked the 8 core parts with those, no problem. 

if you want something that will eventually be overclockable for 16 core part on a budget honestly its best to just go to x570 and go with Asus Prime X570-P as all the b350-x470 boards as capable as it cost more, atleast in NA and so far as im aware. 

[Ad18o]

3 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

The 1650 is an adequate gpu for gaming, but are you aiming for 1440p? 144hz? Ultra settings? 1650 is not going to do that. The recommendation is always to spend the most you can, because future proofing is a lie, but you want the most you can get now.

with the 5700 xt, you’ll be able to play a lot of games at 1080p 144hz ultra, or maybe even 1440p 60hz high. Especially paired with the 2700x you should hit around 120-144hz in cpu intense esports titles. These are stuff you know for yourself. 
The only information I have is that you want to game, please give me both your budget and goal, and I’ll try to steer you in the right direction.

My goal is to play ultra setting on pretty much every game at 60 fps plus

 

These are the builds im trying to decide between

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$189.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$117.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Best Buy
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$49.99 @ Walmart
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$403.98 @ Newegg
Case	Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case	$41.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$84.98 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter	Linksys AE1200 USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter	$15.32 @ Amazon
Monitor	ViewSonic XG2402 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$226.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1305.21
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1285.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-17 17:22 EST-0500

And

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$204.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$48.99 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound	Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste	$6.85 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus PRIME Z390-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$134.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$54.99 @ Newegg
Storage	XPG SX6000 Lite 128 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$25.99
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$49.99 @ Walmart
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$399.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case	$41.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$64.98 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter	Linksys AE1200 USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter	$15.32 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1049.07
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-17 17:24 EST-0500

The monitor is shared

[Jumballi]

Go with the amd build, but there are some parts that are more expensive that have the equivalent performance on the intel side like ram and storage, that’s probably why it’s $200 more

[Ad18o]

3 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

Go with the amd build, but there are some parts that are more expensive that have the equivalent performance on the intel side like ram and storage, that’s probably why it’s $200 more

Its because i included the monitor on that one, they are both within 5$ of eachother

[Jumballi]

1 minute ago, Ad18o said:

Its because i included the monitor on that one, they are both within 5$ of eachother

Oh I didn’t notice the monitor, the amd one is $400 cheaper then

[Ad18o]

3 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

Oh I didn’t notice the monitor, the amd one is $400 cheaper then

200$, i just bought the case