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ryzen 3600 worth the upgrade from 1700x?

i've been thinking about upgrading my cpu for a while now and after watching the new cpu buyers guide video linus put out i am now 100% wanting to upgrade and the 3600 seems like the best upgrade path for me, i play on a 1080p 144hz display with an RTX 2060 so i don't think i need anymore than that but i'm just worried about the core and thread loss from going from ryzen 7 to ryzen 5, just want some other opinions :D

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Take it like this. If the game you currently play is 100%ing your GPU Usage then upgrading CPU will not help (i.e. multi-threaded game) even if your CPU is at like 20% usage. Not all multi-threaded games will take advantage of high core counts, so your GPU may not hit 100% and upgrading CPU in this case will help but not as greatly as the scenario in the next sentence. If your GPU is not at 100% Usage then a CPU with a better single threaded performance will help. 

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26 minutes ago, helloimfrenzy said:

i've been thinking about upgrading my cpu for a while now and after watching the new cpu buyers guide video linus put out i am now 100% wanting to upgrade and the 3600 seems like the best upgrade path for me, i play on a 1080p 144hz display with an RTX 2060 so i don't think i need anymore than that but i'm just worried about the core and thread loss from going from ryzen 7 to ryzen 5, just want some other opinions :D

Do you also game stream using the CPU or do some other work that would require more processing cores?

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33 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Do you also game stream using the CPU or do some other work that would require more processing cores?

i do stream on twitch often but i change between using my cpu and gpu as the encoder all the time. streaming is the only real reason i'm worried about losing cores and threads.

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15 minutes ago, helloimfrenzy said:

i do stream on twitch often but i change between using my cpu and gpu as the encoder all the time. streaming is the only real reason i'm worried about losing cores and threads.

Using the GPU encoder, there would be no difference.

Using the CPU for encoding, the 3600 would sometimes strugle a bit.

Have you considered the 2700X?

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3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Using the GPU encoder, there would be no difference.

Using the CPU for encoding, the 3600 would sometimes strugle a bit.

Have you considered the 2700X?

i have looked at the 2700x but not really interested as the 2700x doesn't seem worth the upgrade to me from 1st gen unlike going from 1st gen to 3rd gen, i suppose if i get the 3600 i could strictly use the gpu encoder as i think my 2060 will handle it well enough.

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2 minutes ago, helloimfrenzy said:

i have looked at the 2700x but not really interested as the 2700x doesn't seem worth the upgrade to me from 1st gen unlike going from 1st gen to 3rd gen, i suppose if i get the 3600 i could strictly use the gpu encoder as i think my 2060 will handle it well enough.

wait for 4th gen, get the max possible perf gain 

but imo still not worth upgrading from a 1700, you may be just seeing fps from 90 to 110

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