Posted December 11, 2019 How would I benefit realistically over rendering something a couple minutes faster or other irrelevant stuff? I mean, any BIG differences? what are we talking about specifically? Im into video editing, making music (so tons of VSTi, VST effects, samples etc on FL studio or cubase) and gaming..... thats about it. I would like to record 4k gameplay, maybe stream. Let me know if I should bother with 3950x or just go for 3900x. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/ Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 all comes down to program specific performance Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118499 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Author 2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said: all comes down to program specific performance such as?? Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118502 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Windows95 said: such as?? what software do you use to edit? what other hardware do you have? Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118505 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Author 5 minutes ago, GDRRiley said: what software do you use to edit? what other hardware do you have? fl studio for music, may get into cubase sony vegas 13 for video 3900x or 3950x i have to decide, may go for 3900x because i cant see any real use cases for 3950x that arent gimmicky or irrelevant Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118513 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 I'd make the switch to resolve and that will benefit a lot more from the more cores. Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118515 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Author 4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said: I'd make the switch to resolve and that will benefit a lot more from the more cores. what do you mean to resolve? im on a freaking q6600 , so no switch here, i havent bought a new cpu yet, im trying to understand why i would need 3950x over 3900x Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118523 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Windows95 said: what do you mean to resolve? im on a freaking q6600 , so no switch here, i havent bought a new cpu yet, im trying to understand why i would need 3950x over 3900x https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/ its the 2nd best editor out their for windows right now. the 3900 should be fine for 90% of work. unless you do 6-8k raw you should be fine with the 12 core Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118527 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Windows95 said: im trying to understand why i would need 3950x over 3900x To me, it looks like you don't need a 3950x, or a 3900x. I bought a 2700, and while using resolve, running 3vm's and a bunch of background tasks I'm hard pressed to keep the CPU stable at 100%. Don't get me wrong, it will spike there for a second or two at a time, but it wont hold 100% constantly. Maybe a 3900x would be useful if you setup a VM for a Plex server, and another for PiHole or something. EDIT: CPU usage other then rendering video... QUOTE/TAG ME WHEN RESPONDING Please Spend As Much Time Writing Your Question As You Want Me To Spend Responding To It. Take Time & Explain New TOS RUINED the meme that used to be below Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118528 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Only if for your PC's usage, time = money. Otherwise, no real life justification. Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118531 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said: Only if for your PC's usage, time = money. Otherwise, no real life justification. This post - if you could fit more $$$ into the time spent rendering daily then you do the math on the investment Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118549 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Tristerin said: This post - if you could fit more $$$ into the time spent rendering daily then you do the math on the investment im making, but not sure for how much longer since this COPPA-FTC bullshit is killing us animation channels Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118555 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 At 1200.00$us it's a lot of dollars. For the CPU. This is a price i saw,it may not be correct, but i suspect it's very close. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118558 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2019 In right programs you could see benefit in video editing, but likely the 3900x would be such a monstrous upgrade over what you have a 3950x isn't worth it. If editing is a hobby rather then a job i wouldn't worry about it, unless you are willing to wait about a month or two when supply starts equaling demands more reasonably. 4 hours ago, Zmax said: At 1200.00$us it's a lot of dollars. For the CPU. This is a price i saw,it may not be correct, but i suspect it's very close. Don't need to spend that much, shopbit.net is receiving about another 7000 examples on 12th and selling at normal prices, and likewise other retailers will continue to receive more and have been but you often don't see them if you aren't watching closely. Problem with NewEgg and Amazon is its become a fad for people to setup bots in a attempt to cash out reselling them on Ebay due to limited supply, not so much that 3950x aren't being resupplied and sold. Don't reward ebay resellers, just give it a month or two if you need one and can't find one yourself atm Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13118977 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 6:51 PM, Windows95 said: How would I benefit realistically over rendering something a couple minutes faster or other irrelevant stuff? I mean, any BIG differences? what are we talking about specifically? Im into video editing, making music (so tons of VSTi, VST effects, samples etc on FL studio or cubase) and gaming..... thats about it. I would like to record 4k gameplay, maybe stream. Let me know if I should bother with 3950x or just go for 3900x. well i can tell you i just got my 3900x up and running tonight and tested it had a 6 core i7 8700 and i testing editing a 4k video just over 3 mins long ... i didnt go nuts i'm still looking how to be a pro but i did add some 3d text and video transitions ... and i like the differences its made for me ... editing and playing everything back playing with things in the timeline is better ... i dont know what your upgrading from ... but with the 3min video i got it exported in 5 min flat not bad .. normally id try to make as little edits in my videos as possible to try to help and it would normally take about 10 min to export ... everyone's experience may very but i can tell you it helps ... if you want to spend the extra money for the 3950x and you can get you hands on one id say go for it .. going bigger can only help ! ... no will a be a big and night difference i cant answer that .. but the difference may or may not big as big as you might think ... you might see little more smoother timeline scrubbing and play back and little faster exports what gpu are you using? .. i use davinci resolve and i've heard and been told and every research that says it loves to use gpu in my experience it barley uses my gpu it manly uses the cpu maybe if your using something else to edit it might very t Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133227-which-real-life-use-cases-does-the-3950x-justify-its-extra-investment-vs-3900x/#findComment-13170852 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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