5820k for £68

[vK 3 1 RON]

Hi guys, I'm looking at used computer parts and noticed on a site that I like to use in the UK that a 5820k is going for £68, has me a little worried that it's a fake but this site has always seemed reputable and is pretty massive over here in the UK. I'd be less inclined to tell someone I'm putting together a parts list for to buy it, if it weren't only available in one of their stores for this price and will probably sell out soon. 

 

Think I should tell them to pick it up?

[minibois]

In terms of performance, that seems to be the right price. Seeing as the Ryzen 5 1600 (almost the same sort of performance) goes for around that price (to max 100 GBP) second hand too.

AM4 boards are usually significantly cheaper than X99 boards though.

 

Whether it is a scam, I don't know.

[porina]

That's not an unreasonable price for a used 5820k. As the lowest CPU in that range, people have been buying higher models and the used market is quite full of them. If you look on ebay.co.uk most of them are selling around £60-£100.

 

If you can pair it with a cheap mobo it can still be interesting over newer CPUs.

[vK 3 1 RON]

3 minutes ago, minibois said:

Seeing as the Ryzen 5 1600 (almost the same sort of performance) goes for around that price (to max 100 GBP) second hand too.

AM4 boards are usually significantly cheaper than X99 boards though.

Hmm, I see, well the natural latter question would be what CPU you think I should get? The 1600 is currently £85 on this site, 2600 is £110, I know this person just wants to play Six Siege at some decent fps for cheap, so gaming is the primary function. In terms of upgrade-ability, it probably makes the most sense to buy a 1600? With a decent AM4 mobo?

 

[porina]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

In terms of performance, that seems to be the right price. Seeing as the Ryzen 5 1600 (almost the same sort of performance) goes for around that price (to max 100 GBP) second hand too.

It'll blow away the 1600, both stock or overclocked. 2600 might creep ahead stock but would lose overclocked. 

 

1 minute ago, minibois said:

AM4 boards are usually significantly cheaper than X99 boards though.

That's the biggest factor in if a 5820k could be considered. There are some cheap Chinese boards which could be an option.

 

1 minute ago, minibois said:

Whether it is a scam, I don't know.

It is current market value.

[porina]

1 minute ago, vK 3 1 RON said:

Hmm, I see, well the natural latter question would be what CPU you think I should get? The 1600 is currently £85 on this site, 2600 is £110, I know this person just wants to play Six Siege at some decent fps for cheap, so gaming is the primary function. In terms of upgrade-ability, it probably makes the most sense to buy a 1600? With a decent AM4 mobo?

Better to look at total system budget and work out a balanced build from there. Certainly going AM4 will give you future CPU upgrade path.

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, porina said:

It'll blow away the 1600, both stock or overclocked. 2600 might creep ahead stock but would lose overclocked. 

 

Most benchmarks don't show overclocked performance, but it looks like it depends on what you do on the CPU if the 5820K is much better or just better.

For example, certain games show next to no difference, others do..

I used this as a reference:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-1600-review.html

Which doesn't have the 5820K in its benchmark, but does have the 5960X.

7 minutes ago, porina said:

It is current market value.

What I meant by the not a scam thing was that I don't know what store he is talking about. The price may be normal, but I don't know the store still..

8 minutes ago, vK 3 1 RON said:

Hmm, I see, well the natural latter question would be what CPU you think I should get? The 1600 is currently £85 on this site, 2600 is £110, I know this person just wants to play Six Siege at some decent fps for cheap, so gaming is the primary function. In terms of upgrade-ability, it probably makes the most sense to buy a 1600? With a decent AM4 mobo?

 

It really depends on what you could get for the motherboard.

The i7 will probably do a bit better in that game.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page5.html

[vK 3 1 RON]

7 minutes ago, porina said:

Better to look at total system budget and work out a balanced build from there. Certainly going AM4 will give you future CPU upgrade path.

The friend said "It wouldn't go over £1000 would it?" And by that, since she's a uni student I assume that she wants to keep at is small as possible, I'd probably set a budget of about £500 

[vK 3 1 RON]

5 minutes ago, minibois said:

 

The i7 will probably do a bit better in that game.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page5.html

Okay, there's a 1600x listed for £90 and an 8400 for £115, any opinions on those two?  I personally am more inclined to say to pickup the 1600x

[minibois]

1 minute ago, vK 3 1 RON said:

Okay, there's a 1600x listed for £90 and an 8400 for £115, any opinions on those two? 

The 8400 will have a higher fps in that particular game, because of the higher single core performance. But moving forward, a higher thread count could be very helpful.

You could check if a 7700(K) has a decent price too.

[vK 3 1 RON]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

The 8400 will have a higher fps in that particular game, because of the higher single core performance. But moving forward, a higher thread count could be very helpful.

You could check if a 7700(K) has a decent price too.

Unfortunately the 7700(K) is £160/£240 on that particular site, I'll check elsewhere... after a quick scan through ebay listings too it seems to be above £160 in all. I presume the K variant would be similar.

Since the 1600 is £5 cheaper would it be better to go for that and then grab a decent air cooler for a little overclock? I'd have to buy an air cooler for the X anyway

[minibois]

1 minute ago, vK 3 1 RON said:

Unfortunately the 7700(K) is £160/£240 on that particular site, I'll check elsewhere... after a quick scan through ebay listings too it seems to be above £160 in all. I presume the K variant would be similar.

Since the 1600 is £5 cheaper would it be better to go for that and then grab a decent air cooler for a little overclock? I'd have to buy an air cooler for the X anyway

Ah, since the 8400 price was okay, I figured the 7700 price might be too.

I would probably go for a 2600 or 5820K. Only get the latter if you can get a decent priced board

 

[porina]

9 minutes ago, minibois said:

Most benchmarks don't show overclocked performance, but it looks like it depends on what you do on the CPU if the 5820K is much better or just better.

For example, certain games show next to no difference, others do..

Without looking up the details, I'd expect the 5820k to do better than the 1600 on both clock and "IPC" at stock. Gaming has traditionally favoured Intel although that is changing with Zen 2. The higher clock of the 2600 could offset that.

 

BTW I own or have owned all of 1600, 2600, 5820k, although I never directly tested them against each other for gaming. You can still get a good feel for how a generation of CPU behaves and extrapolate from clocks and IPC. Since they're all 6 core that at least takes one variable out of the equation.

 

8 minutes ago, vK 3 1 RON said:

The friend said "It wouldn't go over £1000 would it?" And by that, since she's a uni student I assume that she wants to keep at is small as possible, I'd probably set a budget of about £500 

Not something I'd reply to myself, but put the details in the build section and suggestions will come flooding in. I'd put in something lower as people will go over budget anyway  

 

1 minute ago, minibois said:

You could check if a 7700(K) has a decent price too.

Good luck with that... they're still holding value since they're top CPU of that socket and the only upgrade path for those on that socket. I think they're going for as much as a new 3600 which would be a better choice.

[vK 3 1 RON]

2 minutes ago, porina said:

 

Not something I'd reply to myself, but put the details in the build section and suggestions will come flooding in. I'd put in something lower as people will go over budget anyway  

 

hehe, thanks, I'll go do that now

[caldrin]

The 5820k is a good CPU.. it can overclock quite well I had one before i moved to my 3800x.

I could get my 5820k to overclock stable to 4.4ghz all cores pretty easily.. but I seen on the web people get a lot better results than that. Its not bad for that price thats for sure if you can get a decent motherboard cheap as well I guess.