R5 3600 OR I5 9600K

[Vader987878]

I need to know so that i can buy the cpu and motherboard together. also the r5 would be cheaper because it comes with a cooler

[LogicWeasel]

Unless the specific game is worth the small trade-off, it's typically better value to go R5 3600.  It's got twice the threads for multi-core work, and is practically on-par with single-core strength.  The big bonus of going AMD is the motherboard isn't a dead end while the Intel one certainly is.

[Sorenson]

both are good CPUs, although the 3600 is generally considered a better value. You might get ~10ish FPS higher with the 9600k in certain games, but since most displays have freesync you would be hard pressed to notice the difference. 

[Coachdude]

Ryzen 5 3600 all day long. It's basically equivalent in performance to a 8700K because of its SMT implementation. Do not EVER get a processor that lacks hyperthreading, i7 or otherwise. There are already titles that stutter and show poor results with the current gen 6 threaded i5s, like Battlefield 5 64 player conquest, Read Dead Redemption 2, and a few others, and that list is only going to expand going forward as more and more people buy into higher core count processors and more and more games are programmed to take advantage of them. The 3600 will last far longer in this regard because of its 12 threads. Not to mention the fact that it has a way better upgrade path than any and all 9th generation Intel processors, due to them being confirmed to be on a dead socket and chipset at this point. 

 

TLDR: Get the 3600. You'll be much happier now and further down the line. 

[Mister Woof]

The 3600 is a better value, and I agree don't get anything without HT/smt.

 

That said, the 3600 is still slower than the 8700k at gaming, but it's likely you will never be able to perceive it unless you have a very powerful GPU and only play 1080p high refresh.

 

1440p+ and a mid-range/upper mid-range gpu, you won't notice.

 

He'll you won't even notice on a second generation Ryzen.

 

*Some games are very cpu limited and don't care sas much about gpus, like many MMOs. If you are a straight up mmo only player, you may consider Intel.

[Vader987878]

6 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

The 3600 is a better value, and I agree don't get anything without HT/smt.

 

That said, the 3600 is still slower than the 8700k at gaming, but it's likely you will never be able to perceive it unless you have a very powerful GPU and only play 1080p high refresh.

 

1440p+ and a mid-range/upper mid-range gpu, you won't notice.

 

He'll you won't even notice on a second generation Ryzen.

 

*Some games are very cpu limited and don't care sas much about gpus, like many MMOs. If you are a straight up mmo only player, you may consider Intel.

im thinking of getting a rtx 2060 super with it to play games like rust and the occasional game of fortnite with my mates, would that be good? or would you recommend something else... i cant go with a amd gpu btw

[Mister Woof]

48 minutes ago, Vader987878 said:

im thinking of getting a rtx 2060 super with it to play games like rust and the occasional game of fortnite with my mates, would that be good? or would you recommend something else... i cant go with a amd gpu btw

Should be great, but check benchmarks for rust and 5700xt

[LogicWeasel]

14 hours ago, Vader987878 said:

i cant go with a amd gpu btw

why

[Noah0302]

3600 no questions asked imo.

 

Hyperthreading, Upgrade paths etc

[Vader987878]

21 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

why

in australia its very expensive for some reason

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, Vader987878 said:

in australia its very expensive for some reason

Price difference between 2060 super and 5700xy?

[Vader987878]

1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Price difference between 2060 super and 5700xy?

about 100 dollars

[Otto_iii]

On 12/2/2019 at 8:52 AM, Vader987878 said:

im thinking of getting a rtx 2060 super with it to play games like rust and the occasional game of fortnite with my mates, would that be good? or would you recommend something else... i cant go with a amd gpu btw

a 330-350$ RX5700 partner card is same tier out of the box, and can have vbios flashed then with safe and mild overclock in Global Wattman reaches near 2070S performance, matches stock 5700XT performance.  If you like tinkering its way more fun, and a better value.  I'd only get a 2060S if streaming is big concern, both cards can do it but usually one finds less issues running with Nvidea, AMD needs to catch up in that regard. 

If you are new to tinkering but still interested in learning i'd recommend this model, since it runs way cooler then reference 5700 and has duel bios and, so if you screw up and don't have intigrated graphics to easily fix it you aren't screwed. https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131756

[Herman Mcpootis]

13 minutes ago, Vader987878 said:

about 100 dollars

i'm looking at pcpartpicker australia right now and the prices are the same.

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

i'm looking at pcpartpicker australia right now and the prices are the same.

 

5700xt is about 7% faster than the 2060 super. At equal prices, it's a no-brainer unless the specific game you play doesn't work well on AMD.