What do you think will the Zen2+ draw on VRM

[Plermpel]

Hello Guys,

 

I currently have a Ryzen 3700X on my ASUS X570-F Gaming Board wich has 200A VRM, saddly I didn't know, that the 570-E Gaming has better VRM (250A) when I preordered this board a while ago.

So I am hoping to upgrade to a Ryzen 9 4950X or so, when it's released but do you think this will even run on the 570-F Gaming.

The 570-F Gaming is currently short in europe so I would get about 280€ for mine used and the 570-E Gaming costs like 295€. Should I pay this 15€ for that upgrade or even wait till X670 Boards release and be fine with my config now?

I'm struggling with this Idea now because it would be very anoying if the 200A VRM wouldn't be enough for the next gen Ryzen 9 and the 250A would be. But it also would be anoying if I make this upgrade now and would need a x670 board then anyways.

What's your opinion on this conclusion?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Plermpel said:

Hello Guys,

You can run a 3950X/4950X on a 4 phase B450 board with active cooling, assuming you don't try to overclock

 

your board is fine, are you doing LN2 overclocking or something?

[Plermpel]

No absolutely not I am going to overclock (but not ln²) in many many years because I am planing to be Zen 2+ my last update for a long time. I am running CPU on 280mm custom loop

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Plermpel said:

No absolutely not I am going to overclock (but not ln²) in many many years because I am planing to be Zen 2+ my last update for a long time. I am running CPU on 280mm custom loop

then you're never going to go over like 250-300W at the absolute peak, and it really doesn't matter, even the $170 X570 boards would have been fine, think they even have the same VRM.

 

But obviously unless you really need 16 cores today/soon.

 

We have no idea what's going to happen in 2021 with a new socket and Zen 3 and 7nm+++

[Juular]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

then you're never going to go over like 250-300W at the absolute peak, and it really doesn't matter, even the $170 X570 boards would have been fine, think they even have the same VRM.

 

But obviously unless you really need 16 cores today/soon.

 

We have no idea what's going to happen in 2021 with a new socket and Zen 3 and 7nm+++

Thing is, all X570 boards except some mATX ones and sub 300$ MSI ones are okay even for OC'd R9 3950X, it even runs OC'd on B450 Tomahawk with some airflow on the VRM. OP, you're good with that motherboard, next generations unlikely to get more power hungry, in fact i see them only being more power efficient so they'll draw less power.

[Plermpel]

Yea I assume DDR5 and stuff will happen but we will be fine with Ryzen 9 4XXX, like I was fine with my FX8350 on watercooling till July this year , still using it as HTPC with a 980Ti and still running most games decently with optimized Power Magement and overclocked.

 

EDIT: I am also going to add VRM full cover water block when it's released, I hope it will be I think the block for the X570-E came a out a few weeks ago from EKWB, would also be a reason to replace the board.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Plermpel said:

Yea I assume DDR5 and stuff will happen but we will be fine with Ryzen 9 4XXX, like I was fine with my FX8350 on watercooling till July this year , still using it as HTPC with a 980Ti and still running most games decently with optimized Power Magement and overclocked.

Most importantly though we're likely to see decent gains in single threaded performance with the 5000 series.

 

what do you need the 16 core CPU? If it's purely for gaming 8 cores is going to be just fine for years.

[Plermpel]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

what do you need the 16 core CPU? If it's purely for gaming 8 cores is going to be just fine for years

But how many years? It's always good to prepare for the future, also I do 3d design and photo editing as a hobby it can be nice there.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, Plermpel said:

I'm struggling with this Idea now because it would be very anoying if the 200A VRM wouldn't be enough for the next gen Ryzen 9 and the 250A would be.

you really wont be running into 200A powerdraw on newer parts. at least not stock. and overclocking is fairly redundant. and there is no pointers they will go up in corecount. 

[Plermpel]

53 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

there is no pointers they will go up in corecount

Well we don't know there was no point for ryzen 9 16 core now and they did it maybe the 4950X will have 32 cares because the threadripper 2950 had and the Ryzen 9 3950 has now, we don't know.

[GoldenLag]

37 minutes ago, Plermpel said:

Well we don't know there was no point for ryzen 9 16 core now and they did it maybe the 4950X will have 32 cares because the threadripper 2950 had and the Ryzen 9 3950 has now, we don't know.

Well we had ideas of the 3950x for quite some time. And its powerdraw isnt really more than the 3900x. Which was similar to the 2700x. 

 

And they dont really have room on the chip for more cores.