First ever gaming build advice

[EuroBob95]

This is my first ever build so go easy on me please. After research upon research I have come to the conclusion that everyone thinks their products are the best and the amount of hardware can get confusing, I tried to go on discords and I got laughed at for my very little knowledge. I have built this just based on research and I am looking for a genuine opinion and if it needs changed then why.

 

I am in the UK, my budget would be around £1200 and I already have a monitor, mouse and keyboard.

I have no preference on brands because I don't know I would just like a future proof system that will last.

I will be mostly gaming at maximum 4k60 just based on my monitor and it will be mostly single player games, won't be venturing into hardcore fps yet. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BhF9rV 

 

Anything I have missed out then just let me know and thank you!

[Jurrunio]

dont see anything I really need to stomp on, apart from the case airflow problem.

 

5 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

maximum 4k60 just based on my monitor and it will be mostly single player games, won't be venturing into hardcore fps yet. 

4K is a "hardcore" resolution if you put it this way for a 5700XT, you'll have to run lower graphical settings.

[EuroBob95]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

dont see anything I really need to stomp on, apart from the case airflow problem.

 

4K is a "hardcore" resolution if you put it this way for a 5700XT, you'll have to run lower graphical settings.

So I should change case? 

 

Ah okay my bad then, I meant hardcore fps games like OW, COD, CS:GO etc, So a 5700XT wouldn't run 4K games?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

So a 5700XT wouldn't run 4K games?

Esports titles yes, demanding single player games say Assassin's Creed Odyssey, not really. It will run, but do more like 40fps if I recall correctly

[EuroBob95]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Esports titles yes, demanding single player games say Assassin's Creed Odyssey, not really. It will run, but do more like 40fps if I recall correctly

What GPU would run them at 60 or is it not even worth doing 4k60?

[berberries]

This build is more likely to be able to push 4k60 on some games

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£177.18 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£61.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£90.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£135.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  (£518.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1192.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 18:33 GMT+0000

 

swapped the 3700x for a 3600 which is perfectly good for games and almost all uses.

 

RTX 2070 SUPER should push about 10% more frames than a 5700XT in most games

 

If you really want to push 4k60, you will have to stretch your budget a little bit more to maybe £1350 and fit an RTX 2080 SUPER in your build.

[EuroBob95]

4 minutes ago, berberries said:

This build is more likely to be able to push 4k60 on some games

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£177.18 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£61.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£90.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£135.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  (£518.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1192.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 18:33 GMT+0000

 

swapped the 3700x for a 3600 which is perfectly good for games and almost all uses.

 

RTX 2070 SUPER should push about 10% more frames than a 5700XT in most games

 

If you really want to push 4k60, you will have to stretch your budget a little bit more to maybe £1350 and fit an RTX 2080 SUPER in your build.

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.

 

Can I ask like why the 3600 instead if that's okay to ask and would it last a few years at least?

 

Is the RTX 20280 a lot better if I had the money to drop on it compared to the 2070s? 

 

Thank you so much

[berberries]

10 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

Can I ask like why the 3600 instead if that's okay to ask and would it last a few years at least?

the R5 3600 is right now the most bang for the buck CPU. You also won't gain any FPS by upgrading to the 3700x. With the 3600, you should be set for a few years as long as you are not always looking to be on the bleeding edge of technology.

 

10 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

Is the RTX 20280 a lot better if I had the money to drop on it compared to the 2070s?

The RTX 2080 SUPER gains another roughly 10% in performance as compared to the 2070 SUPER. Whether it is worth it is up to you to decide.

 

Just to let you know, the games which are more difficult to run are sightseeing games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey etc. Esports titles like CS:GO or Overwatch can run on literal potatoes. I'm running a GTX 1080 Ti which performs about the same as a 2080 Super, easily get over 100fps in CS:GO and Overwatch at 4k max settings.

[EuroBob95]

4 minutes ago, berberries said:

the R5 3600 is right now the most bang for the buck CPU. You also won't gain any FPS by upgrading to the 3700x. With the 3600, you should be set for a few years as long as you are not always looking to be on the bleeding edge of technology.

 

The RTX 2080 SUPER gains another roughly 10% in performance as compared to the 2070 SUPER. Whether it is worth it is up to you to decide.

 

Just to let you know, the games which are more difficult to run are sightseeing games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey etc. Esports titles like CS:GO or Overwatch can run on literal potatoes. I'm running a GTX 1080 Ti which performs about the same as a 2080 Super, easily get over 100fps in CS:GO and Overwatch at 4k max settings.

Okay on the R5 3600, That makes a lot of sense thank you honestly. It can be so daunting building a PC with no knowledge at first. I am not looking to be on the bleeding edge so I think I am on to a winner here.

 

I will look at the price difference between the 2080 and 2070, if I were to opt for the 2080 would the rest of the build be able to handle that?

 

Ah right that also makes a lot of sense, I think for some games I will still use my PS4 Pro possibly depending on how it looks on PC but thank you so much honestly! My monitor is 60hz anyway for now so that is max 60fps yeah?

[berberries]

Just now, EuroBob95 said:

Okay on the R5 3600, That makes a lot of sense thank you honestly. It can be so daunting building a PC with no knowledge at first. I am not looking to be on the bleeding edge so I think I am on to a winner here.

 

I will look at the price difference between the 2080 and 2070, if I were to opt for the 2080 would the rest of the build be able to handle that?

 

Ah right that also makes a lot of sense, I think for some games I will still use my PS4 Pro possibly depending on how it looks on PC but thank you so much honestly! My monitor is 60hz anyway for now so that is max 60fps yeah?

yup with vsync it will top out at 60fps. letting it go uncapped may result in screen tearing.

 

Do note that there is a difference between the 2070 and the 2070 SUPER. Same for the 2080 and the 2080 SUPER. The SUPER cards have essentially replaced the NON SUPER cards. Make sure when you purchase the card you don't get the NON SUPER versions as there is a significant performance deficit.

[Jurrunio]

36 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

What GPU would run them at 60 or is it not even worth doing 4k60?

2070 Super stands a better chance, but while faster cards are preferred their prices are really no good.

 

6 core and 8 core CPUs dont differ much in most games, though occassionally they do

 

my plan to max out 1200 pounds

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£286.38 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 CPU Cooler	£19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	£89.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£64.51 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£85.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£47.58 @ Aria PC
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£475.00 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case	£58.97 @ Box Limited
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£69.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1198.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 19:05 GMT+0000

 

[EuroBob95]

1 minute ago, berberries said:

yup with vsync it will top out at 60fps. letting it go uncapped may result in screen tearing.

 

Do note that there is a difference between the 2070 and the 2070 SUPER. Same for the 2080 and the 2080 SUPER. The SUPER cards have essentially replaced the NON SUPER cards. Make sure when you purchase the card you don't get the NON SUPER versions as there is a significant performance deficit.

Yeah so that is fine then for now.

 

Okay got it then, look for SUPER in the name, thank you so much I can't thank you enough!!

[EuroBob95]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

2070 Super stands a better chance, but while faster cards are preferred their prices are really no good.

 

6 core and 8 core CPUs dont differ much in most games, though occassionally they do

 

my plan to max out 1200 pounds

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£286.38 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 CPU Cooler	£19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	£89.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£64.51 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£85.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£47.58 @ Aria PC
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£475.00 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case	£58.97 @ Box Limited
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£69.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1198.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 19:05 GMT+0000

 

Okay thanks for this list too.

 

Stupid question but is that CPU cooler necessary because of the CPU or case doesn't have one or is it extra?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, EuroBob95 said:

Stupid question but is that CPU cooler necessary because of the CPU or case doesn't have one or is it extra?

It's not necessary, but the stock cooler (that comes with the CPU, not case) is kinda bad. As in you'll hear it under load and CPU will run 80C+

[EuroBob95]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

It's not necessary, but the stock cooler (that comes with the CPU, not case) is kinda bad. As in you'll hear it under load and CPU will run 80C+

Okay then, I will add that! 

 

Thank you so much