Ryzen 5 3600 running at 4.1 GHZ out of the box???

[ElvisRudan33]

I recently upgraded my CPU from a Ryzen 3 2200g to a Ryzen 5 3600 and I am loving the upgrade. But, I have noticed that my CPU was running at 4.1 GHZ at times right out of the box. I don't believe this to be the right thing to be happening so i went to the BIOS and changed the MHZ and voltage on the overclocking screen and it went down. I am currently running it at 3.8 GHZ at 1.15V and the thermals are fine now and the performance isn't noticeably lower. Anyways, my question is, Was it a bad idea that I lowered GHZ of the CPU down to 3.8? Just for some context, my CPU temp. was around 65 degrees Celsius at idle while running 4.1 GHZ and after lowering the GHZ to 3.8 it is now idling at around 49 degrees Celsius. I did notice that in the Bios that my setting on the overclocking tweaker that there was an auto overclock profile that was being used and when I turned it off, it lowered my CPU and I was able to get my CPU thermals lowered.

 

If anyone can give me any tips I'd greatly appreciate it! Still learning quite a bit since I just built my first PC this month and am still learning a lot about this whole process. I don't want to overclock as I don't have ample cooling and don't really need the added small performance increase. 

 

Thanks everyone!

[MaxTGG]

It’s probably boost clocking. This is when it auto increases the clock speed if it can handle those high speeds. Don’t worry this is normal. If it does it out of box I recommend keeping it unless it isn’t running properly. All you really did was slow down the CPU. But I don’t blame you. Also 60 degrees isn’t bad

[Brooksie359]

The CPU will perform worse when the cpu is the limiting factor now that the frequency is at 3.8 instead of 4.1 but you get better power efficiency and thermals with the lower clocks and voltage. It really depends on what you care about and if the CPU will come into play with what you do. If you are playing games and are completely GPU limited then the lower frequency will make no difference in terms of performance so that is something to keep in mind. 

[mikeyT00]

That is a fairly high idle temp. Unless your MB bios is borked and sending way to many volts perhaps your case isn't getting enough fresh air to your cooler? My 3600 goes back and forth between 3.6 and 4.1 which is normal PB2 behavior but my idle temps are 30-40c and my max temps are around 70c with a hyper 212 in a fairly small ITX case. So something is going wrong with your's. Even the stock cooler shouldn't be idling at 65c out of the box. So either your case is poorly ventilated or something weird is going on in your bios. 

[ElvisRudan33]

18 minutes ago, MaxTGG said:

It’s probably boost clocking. This is when it auto increases the clock speed if it can handle those high speeds. Don’t worry this is normal. If it does it out of box I recommend keeping it unless it isn’t running properly. All you really did was slow down the CPU. But I don’t blame you. Also 60 degrees isn’t bad

I was under the preconceived notion that 60 degrees Celsius at idle was not ideal. But that is good to know. thank you!

[ElvisRudan33]

15 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

The CPU will perform worse when the cpu is the limiting factor now that the frequency is at 3.8 instead of 4.1 but you get better power efficiency and thermals with the lower clocks and voltage. It really depends on what you care about and if the CPU will come into play with what you do. If you are playing games and are completely GPU limited then the lower frequency will make no difference in terms of performance so that is something to keep in mind. 

I am not doing anything intensive on the cpu. My gpu is taking a lot of the load when running games and My games run just fine. I just didn't want to runn my cpu way too hot when I do not have an upgraded cooler. 

[ElvisRudan33]

10 minutes ago, mikeyT00 said:

It's just precision boost 2 doing it's thing. Mine constantly bumps back and forth between 3.6-4.1. I'm running mine bone stock because I can't be bothered spending hours futzing in the bios to get 100-200 mhz more. I'm using the newer hyper 212 and it never goes above 70c so I don't see why you should need to lower it to keep temps under control unless your house is really really hot. 

My temps in my house are not hot at all. I also have ample airflow through my case and all of the other components stay nice and cool. I just didn't really think I needed my cpu to run at that frequency when i'm not doing anything besides gaming and basic computing like discord calls as well as YouTube and what-not

[ElvisRudan33]

14 minutes ago, mikeyT00 said:

That is a fairly high idle temp. Unless your MB bios is borked and sending way to many volts perhaps your case isn't getting enough fresh air to your cooler? My 3600 goes back and forth between 3.6 and 4.1 which is normal PB2 behavior but my idle temps are 30-40c and my max temps are around 70c with a hyper 212 in a fairly small ITX case. So something is going wrong with your's. Even the stock cooler shouldn't be idling at 65c out of the box. So either your case is poorly ventilated or something weird is going on in your bios. 

When I am running my CPU at 3.8 Ghz, I am running idle temps at around 50 degrees C at most. the 65 degrees idle is when the cpu is boosting to the 4.1 Ghz.

[MaxTGG]

4 minutes ago, ElvisRudan33 said:

My temps in my house are not hot at all. I also have ample airflow through my case and all of the other components stay nice and cool. I just didn't really think I needed my cpu to run at that frequency when i'm not doing anything besides gaming and basic computing like discord calls as well as YouTube and what-not

Actually I think 60 degrees is really hot. It should be 30. Sorry I was thinking about the wrong thing. You should try to get those temps lower. Unless it stays low while doing hard tasks like gaming, editing etc

[ElvisRudan33]

1 minute ago, MaxTGG said:

Actually I think 60 degrees is really hot. It should be 30. Sorry I was thinking about the wrong thing. It does depend on the cooler though

I am running the stock Wraith stealth cooler. I will be looking at nicer cooler options in the future since I know these processors run hotter than others.

[ElvisRudan33]

This may be confusing but I will try to explain some other details. So from the moment I turn on my pc to the moment I turn it off, the pc sounds like it is doing a stress test. Maybe that is why the temps were so high and it was possible that the temps weren't for an idle system? Its confusing I know but I tried my best to convey my message

 

[ElvisRudan33]

The other problem I have is that Speccy isn't showing my temps like it did when I used the other CPU. I don't know how to get back to where speccy can show my CPU temps.

[MaxTGG]

11 minutes ago, ElvisRudan33 said:

This may be confusing but I will try to explain some other details. So from the moment I turn on my pc to the moment I turn it off, the pc sounds like it is doing a stress test. Maybe that is why the temps were so high and it was possible that the temps weren't for an idle system? Its confusing I know but I tried my best to convey my message

 

Did you check task manager

[ElvisRudan33]

1 minute ago, MaxTGG said:

Did you check task manager

I am not too sure what I need to be looking for exactly on there. 

[ElvisRudan33]

so update. after doing research I finally knew what you look for and I did make a mistake by changing the setting in the bios. not that it made system run unstable but I figured out that my settings and my idle temps are actually fine and well within reason at 45 degrees Celsius. I thought that my cpu was always running at 1.4v when in fact my average core voltage was under 1 and so that showed me that i was at idle all the time. I just didn't figure it out until not too long ago. thanks everyone for the feedback.

[HugoGod123]

I'm a little too late but for those who are having the same question, you can under volt a CPU to get better temps and same performance with RM or in bios, but I prefer RM.

Clock speed:4.35GHz Voltage: 1.40

clock speed:4.3GHz Voltage: 1.25

clock speed:4.2GHz Voltage: 1.17

clock speed:4.1GHz Voltage: 1.10

clock speed:4.0GHz Voltage: 1.06

clock speed:3.9GHz Voltage: 1.01

If you have a R5 3600 then choose clock speed:4.1GHz Voltage: 1.10 or clock speed:4.2GHz Voltage: 1.17, but I prefer 4.1 GHz as the temp difference is more noticeable, then open RM and go to advanced view>Profile one>click on manual>click on CCD and a red dot will appear> click on it, and it will turn green> on the first core change the speed to whatever GHz you choose from the list>on voltage control change it to the voltage of the GHz you choose, click apply and test to see if its stable(it should)> it should decrease around 10c