AMD clearly isn’t tired of winning yet… - Threadripper 3970X/3960X Review

[Emily Young]

After the Ryzen 9 3950X wowed us, AMD’s dropping yet another beastly CPU: The 32-core Threadripper 3970X and 24-core 3960X. Let’s see just how well they rip threads…

 

 

Buy a Threadripper 3970X:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: TBD

 

Buy a Threadripper 3960X:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: TBD

 

Buy a Threadripper 2990WX:
On Amazon: https://lmg.gg/8KVjf
On Newegg: https://geni.us/VSAA

 

Buy a Ryzen 9 3950X:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: TBD

[GenericFanboy]

Goddamn amd

[croppy]

Do you guys not bench after effects?

[SolarNova]

Get rekt Intel

 

Still, would love to see AMD also compete very closely or outright beat intel with Gaming CPU's in pure performance.

[Hugh54321]

If I won the lottery I would buy a few to use as space heaters in my cavernous mansion 

[Arlodog]

55 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Get rekt Intel

 

Still, would love to see AMD also compete very closely or outright beat intel with Gaming CPU's in pure performance.

People say that Amd is better in gaming at lower price points because of pricing right?

and that intel beats AMD at the high end, but, at higher resolutions doesent amd close the gap?

correct me if i'm wrong  

[Hunter259]

Tell me if I'm wrong but i'm 99.999% sure that you can't just chop lanes down like that. It's still 8 lanes to the CPU but it has the bandwidth of 4.

[SenKa]

No thread for "Intel’s behavior is PATHETIC – Core i9 10980XE Review"?

 

 

[MeatFeastMan]

1 hour ago, Arlodog said:

People say that Amd is better in gaming at lower price points because of pricing right?

and that intel beats AMD at the high end, but, at higher resolutions doesent amd close the gap?

correct me if i'm wrong  

3600 has no competition for gaming. That's cause the 9600k and 9400f have one big flaw which is their lack of hyperthreading, meaning they stutter in some titles, and that will only get worse as time goes on. The 3600 doesn't have those issues.

 

So yes, at lower price points AMD can't be beaten.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, Hunter259 said:

Tell me if I'm wrong but i'm 99.999% sure that you can't just chop lanes down like that. It's still 16 lanes to the CPU but it has the bandwidth of 8.

its because it isnt chopping lanes. those lanes are provided by the chipset. 

 

transfered by those 8 lanes to the CPU. 

[Dracarris]

57 minutes ago, SenKa said:

No thread for "Intel’s behavior is PATHETIC – Core i9 10980XE Review"?

 

 

I was wondering the exact same thing.

[Guest]

I feel spoiled with 3 videos in less than 24 hours

[Hunter259]

48 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

its because it isnt chopping lanes. those lanes are provided by the chipset. 

 

transfered by those 8 lanes to the CPU. 

My question is more of how is the chipset functioning. You can't just combine lanes unless that is something new. That should be half the bandwidth as you have half the lanes to the CPU than the drives want.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

My question is more of how is the chipset functioning. You can't just combine lanes unless that is something new.

its not combining or splitting any lanes. 

 

its generating its own lanes to run on. then using the connecting itself to the CPU using 8 lanes. 

and combining PCIe lanes sort of happens when you split them. 

 

this isnt something new. x570 works the same way, the whole AM4 socket. 1151 and 1154, 2011, TR4, 3467. and many many more boards that have south bridges. otherwise known as the chipset. 

[Hunter259]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

its not combining or splitting any lanes. 

 

its generating its own lanes to run on. then using the connecting itself to the CPU using 8 lanes. 

and combining PCIe lanes sort of happens when you split them. 

 

this isnt something new. x570 works the same way, the whole AM4 socket. 1151 and 1154, 2011, TR4, 3467. and many many more boards that have south bridges. otherwise known as the chipset. 

I understand that. The chipset is basically half a PLX chip. But if your drives run at a PCIe 3 speed then the switch, in this case the chipset, is going to be switching PCIe 3 speeds. Which when running them all in a raid like the picture shows would net you half the bandwidth that would be possible.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

Which when running them all in a raid like the picture shows would net you half the bandwidth that would be possible.

the speed link between the chipset and CPU never changes. 

 

only the chipset to device speed changes. 

 

as i said, those are seperate lanes. they toggle themselves. 

[yingste]

Floatplane down for anyone else right now? I just get the Cloadflare host error page

[Hunter259]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

the speed link between the chipset and CPU never changes. 

 

only the chipset to device speed changes. 

 

as i said, those are seperate lanes. they toggle themselves. 

The data that is going across that link is slower than the link's maximum bandwidth. So the chipset is switching all this PCIe 3 info and putting it on the PCIe 4 bus but the data is still going to be PCIe 3 speed. You can't just magically make it go faster. The fastest those drives together can deliver data to the bus is ~8GB/s.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

The fastest those drives together can deliver data to the bus is ~8GB/s.

are you reffering to the PCIe link between the CPU and chipset?

 

if so. that will gladly accept any data the lanes that the chipset generates. it should run at the full 8x 4.0 speed if the chipset is connected to 16 lanes wort of m.2. 

 

 

someone with x570 could probably confirm this if they have 2 3.0 high speed m.2 drives, tho that is usually not all that common. 

[SnoopyPaladin89]

8 minutes ago, yingste said:

Floatplane down for anyone else right now? I just get the Cloadflare host error page

Same here and I really wanna watch the review.

I'm getting a 522 error.

[BabaGanuche]

37 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

The data that is going across that link is slower than the link's maximum bandwidth. So the chipset is switching all this PCIe 3 info and putting it on the PCIe 4 bus but the data is still going to be PCIe 3 speed. You can't just magically make it go faster. The fastest those drives together can deliver data to the bus is ~8GB/s.

 

Think of it this way. I have a network switch, with 4x 1gb client connections and 1x 10 gb server connection. All 4 clients can get the full 1 gb from the server as the switch merges the traffic on to the 1x 10gb. This is analogous to what the chipset does.

[amdorintel]

1 hour ago, hiitswilliam said:

I feel spoiled with 3 videos in less than 24 hours

its time for linus to make some money before everyone else posts up a video on the same subject matter

[Lathlaer]

Watching the video now but before anything else, is there a reason we don't have the thread about the Intel review?

[Results45]

Why wasn't this compared to the Xeon W 8175X/8275, Xeon 8180/8280, or other moderate core-count Xeons? Cuz isn't that what Linus built for all his editors?

 

Spoiler

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• https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/189452/intel-xeon-w-3175x-processor-38-5m-cache-3-10-ghz.html
• https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193752/intel-xeon-w-3275-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html
• https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/120496/intel-xeon-platinum-8180-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html
• https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192478/intel-xeon-platinum-8280-processor-38-5m-cache-2-70-ghz.html

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I get from the opening and conclusion that it's supposed to be informative for us "average Joes", but is the Threadripper not meant for HEDT/workstation customers with workloads beyond 8-16 cores anyway?

[amdorintel]

@Results45 linus makes videos that will produce the most amount of eyeballs

 

how long has linus been doing this for?

how much information does linus have through youtube analytics?

how much information and analytics does linus keep in house on the videos he makes?

*pls dont answer the questions, I am not interested. its generally speaking.

 

 

its a business

money is the motive

salaries need to be paid

bills need to be paid

 

so i am sure linus has a general feel of the age range of his viewers and how many of those are interested in or are using 8+ cores.

 

also a lot of info on the kind of content needed for a big splash

 

not sure why linus does one type of video compared to another