Is a 2080 ti worth it for 1440p gaming and streaming?

[Scooty_Malone]

I'm planning a new build in about a month, and I'm a little torn between an RTX 2080ti and a regular old RTX 2080. Is the extra $300-500 USD worth it for 1440p gaming and streaming?

[Firewrath9]

No. 2080 ti is ~15% better, for 50% more expensive?

Honestly, the price/performance falls off after the 2060S. 25% more for 15% more perf, then 40% more for 15% more perf, then even more $$.

[MartinKweh]

is 2080 super out of the equation?

 

also @Firewrath9 that profile pic still gets me every time. 

[Scooty_Malone]

4 minutes ago, Martin2132 said:

is 2080 super out of the equation?

Not at all! I'm just trying to find the right video card for what I'm building, and if a 2080 Super is the right card for just 1440p gaming and streaming, then I'm all for it.

 

5 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

No. 2080 ti is ~15% better, for 50% more expensive?

Honestly, the price/performance falls off after the 2060S. 25% more for 15% more perf, then 40% more for 15% more perf, then even more $$.

Even if you add streaming into the equation? I plan on livestreaming quite a bit once I get this card, and (I might be wrong here) I know GPU doesn't come into play much with livestreaming, I just want to make sure I will be able to stream whatever I want.

 

Edit: This PC will have either a Ryzen 9 3900X or 3950X in it, so I know CPU won't be a bottleneck.

[Founders]

I went with the 2070S for 1440p gaming and I've been happy with it. $500 is my max for a video card, but you may feel differently. 

[Firewrath9]

4 minutes ago, Scooty_Malone said:

Even if you add streaming into the equation? I plan on livestreaming quite a bit once I get this card, and (I might be wrong here) I know GPU doesn't come into play much with livestreaming, I just want to make sure I will be able to stream whatever I want.

 

Edit: This PC will have either a Ryzen 9 3900X or 3950X in it, so I know CPU won't be a bottleneck.

Livestreaming is CPU dependant. A 2080S with a 3950X > 2080 Ti with a 3900X

[Scooty_Malone]

1 minute ago, Ehmc130 said:

I went with the 2070S for 1440p gaming and I've been happy with it. $500 is my max for a video card, but you may feel differently. 

I'm normally a bit thrifty when it comes to building PCs, but I am building a high-end rig as a christmas present for myself, so my budget is very flexible for the first time ever. Normally, I'm the same way, but I had some good fortune come my way recently so I'm splurging.

[Scooty_Malone]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

Livestreaming is CPU dependant. A 2080S with a 3950X > 2080 Ti with a 3900X

What about a 3950X with a 2080ti?

[Firewrath9]

Just now, Scooty_Malone said:

What about a 3950X with a 2080ti?

Even better, but diminish returns. I'd actually rather spend some money on custom loop than a 2080 Ti

[Scooty_Malone]

3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Even better, but diminish returns. I'd actually rather spend some money on custom loop than a 2080 Ti

So, that actually brings up something else I'm interested in. I was planning on buying a watercooler for the CPU, but this will be my first time ever dealing with watercooling. As far as a custom loop goes, I sort of understand the basics of it, but do you have any tips on these? I.E. possibly parts suggestions, installation tips, etc?

[Firewrath9]

3 minutes ago, Scooty_Malone said:

So, that actually brings up something else I'm interested in. I was planning on buying a watercooler for the CPU, but this will be my first time ever dealing with watercooling. As far as a custom loop goes, I sort of understand the basics of it, but do you have any tips on these? I.E. possibly parts suggestions, installation tips, etc?

Part suggestions:

CPU Block:

EK makes good ones that look nice.

Pump:

D5 pump + whatever pump-res combo looks nice. I like heatkiller IV resevoirs, but they cost a lot.

Radiators:

Hardwarelabs GTS for 30mm thin, GTX for 60mm thick.

Best performing, and one of the cheapest.

Tubing:

Honestly doesn't matter, 10/13 is the regular size. Soft tubing is easier than hard.

Fittings:

Cheapest that you think look nice. EK-Classic is nice.

Fluid:

Mayhems if you want solid/pastel, otherwise anything (for watercooling) is fine.

 

Tips:

Leak test your system, so use a 2nd PSU, and don't power on your main rig. Let the pump run, and see if any water droplets drip. Also have a drain port, helps with maintanance.

 

[Scooty_Malone]

6 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Part suggestions:

CPU Block:

EK makes good ones that look nice.

Pump:

D5 pump + whatever pump-res combo looks nice. I like heatkiller IV resevoirs, but they cost a lot.

Radiators:

Hardwarelabs GTS for 30mm thin, GTX for 60mm thick.

Best performing, and one of the cheapest.

Tubing:

Honestly doesn't matter, 10/13 is the regular size. Soft tubing is easier than hard.

Fittings:

Cheapest that you think look nice. EK-Classic is nice.

Fluid:

Mayhems if you want solid/pastel, otherwise anything (for watercooling) is fine.

 

Tips:

Leak test your system, so use a 2nd PSU, and don't power on your main rig. Let the pump run, and see if any water droplets drip. Also have a drain port, helps with maintanance.

 

Thanks for the tips! That all seems a little overwhelming for me, so I might just go with an AIO to start, and upgrade to a custom loop later on when I have more time to play with it and test things.

[trevb0t]

46 minutes ago, Scooty_Malone said:

What about a 3950X with a 2080ti?

Great setup, but you may as well go 4k...

 

2080 Super is high end 1440p really. A 2070S or RTX 5700XT is standard. People game 1440p on a 1660Ti... So the question is more what games you're playing, and what framerates you feel the need to hit.

 

The 3950X really isnt THAT much better at gaming than the 3600. I see the 3700X as the sweet spot. Lots of cores/threads, high performance, solid overclocker...

 

A 3700X and 2080S would be a GREAT 1440p gaming/streaming setup. Unless you're upgrading to 4k or doing massive rendering computing, really the 3900/50X and the Ti are bloat spending. (Though great parts. Dont get me wrong.)

[dizmo]

I mean, if you want to get the most out of your high refresh rate monitor, then yeah you'd kind of need a 2080Ti.

Worth it? Only you can answer that. Worth is completely subjective.

[Scooty_Malone]

1 minute ago, trevb0t said:

Great setup, but you may as well go 4k...

 

2080 Super is high end 1440p really. A 2070S or RTX 5700XT is standard. People game 1440p on a 1660Ti. So the question is more what games you're playing, and what framerates you feel the need to hit.

 

The 3950X really isnt THAT much better at gaming than the 3600. I see the 3700X as the sweet spot. Lots of cores/threads, high performance, solid overclocker...

 

A 3700X and 2080S would be a GREAT 1440p gaming/streaming setup. 

Going 4k is eventually the plan, which is partially why I'm going for such monstrous parts. The other reason is that I don't want to have to upgrade my PC again for a long time.

[trevb0t]

10 minutes ago, Scooty_Malone said:

Going 4k is eventually the plan, which is partially why I'm going for such monstrous parts. The other reason is that I don't want to have to upgrade my PC again for a long time.

Fair enough. Well to narrow it, the 2080 doesnt make sense with the Super on the market. (A 2070 Super is very close and $100 cheaper, the 2080 Super offering a bit more value prospect for that money.)

The 2080Ti would push you closer to 144fps on AAA games at 1440p (Ultra) if that's a desire. Generally speaking, 144fps is the goal for esports, and 60 is plenty for AAA. With 4k in the future plan, the Ti is gonna be your best for that. (Though a 2080S does plenty there too.)

 

The 3700X has plenty of futureproofing built in. Its 16 threads and overclockable. So I stick to that suggestion, unless you just flat out want THE BEST FOR THE MOST MONEY lol. 

 

The question of value is what you need to ask yourself: Do I wanna just spend as much as I need to for the highest end gear? Or do I want the high end gear with the best performance per dollar?

You can always stick that bloat spending into great cooling for overclocking. A high end 2080S cooler costs significantly less than a low/mid range cooler on the Ti. High end Ti cooling adds 100+ easily. If you can push the 2080S to Ti speeds and save that money... win/win. 

[Scooty_Malone]

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Do I wanna just spend as much as I need to for the highest end gear? 

That's pretty much where I'm at. I have the rare opportunity to just get whatever I want without worrying about cost too much, and in this situation, I want the best of the best. The only real reason I made this thread was to sort of gauge how worth it a 2080 ti is compared to a 2080 (I honestly completely forgot about Super when I made this post, but generally, yes, this has all been about the ti vs. Super) Also, the matter of it being a $300-500 difference had me questioning it at first.

I suppose I just naturally try to find deals when I can, I'm not used to splurging like this lol.