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ok so next question would the 5700XT be a significant upgrade over the 980TI im using now? a lot of people are trying to get me to go with a 2070 super instead but price per performance cant be beat with the 5700XT to me.

I don't have an exact test to show you but I would estimate that the 5700 XT would be roughly a 50% uplift over the 980 Ti, though this will vary by game and I would say that answer is at best +/-10%.  As for value vs the Super series, you are correct, the 5700 XT is a better value unless you need the nvidia specific features like NVENC encoder, RTX, etc. or want to exceed that performance level (2080+).

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planning on getting an upgrade GPU coming from a 980ti to most likely 5700XT red devil or something like that,anyways i been getting mixed bag of comments about it either not working or working with pcie 3.0,and the motherboard im on is a ASUS ROG Maximus IX Extreme,bit older board but still very relevent for just gaming with a 6700k cpu.....so will it work? i sure hope so....

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Yes. PCIe 4.0 has essentially zero advantage for a GPU in terms of performance, at least for now.

 

edit: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pci-express-4-0-performance-scaling-radeon-rx-5700-xt/

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It will even work on a PCIe 1.0 1x connection.  Granted performance would be very bad, but they've been good about maintaining complete backward compatibility, as well as making a full compliment of lanes "recommended but not required"

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all PCIe generations are intercompatible. PCIe gen 1 is functional with PCIe 4.0 devices (assuming no other barring factors like legacy support modes)

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4 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

It will even work on a PCIe 1.0 1x connection

I thought PCIe x4 and below deliver less power?

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

I thought PCIe x4 and below deliver less power?

That would be a problem for an old card that needs the power. If your card needs less power than the port can provide, it shouldn't cause issues?

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I thought PCIe x4 and below deliver less power?

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  • ×1 cards are limited to 0.5 A at +12 V (6 W) and 10 W combined.
  • ×4 and wider cards are limited to 2.1 A at +12 V (25 W) and 25 W combined.
  • A full-sized ×1 card may draw up to the 25 W limits after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".
  • A full-sized ×16 graphics card[15] may draw up to 5.5 A at +12 V (66 W) and 75 W combined after initialization and software configuration as a "high power device".

According to wikipedia at least.  So yeah there's a drop under 4x, but there's also a drop under 16x and many people run those, and apparently 1x things can bypass the limit by telling the system they need more anyway

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6 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

According to wikipedia at least.  So yeah there's a drop under 4x, but there's also a drop under 16x and many people run those, and apparently 1x things can bypass the limit by telling the system they need more anyway

ok so next question would the 5700XT be a significant upgrade over the 980TI im using now? a lot of people are trying to get me to go with a 2070 super instead but price per performance cant be beat with the 5700XT to me.

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Just now, xreaperx22 said:

ok so next question would the 5700XT be a significant upgrade over the 980TI im using now? a lot of people are trying to get me to go with a 2070 super instead but price per performance cant be beat with the 5700XT to me.

I don't have an exact test to show you but I would estimate that the 5700 XT would be roughly a 50% uplift over the 980 Ti, though this will vary by game and I would say that answer is at best +/-10%.  As for value vs the Super series, you are correct, the 5700 XT is a better value unless you need the nvidia specific features like NVENC encoder, RTX, etc. or want to exceed that performance level (2080+).

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1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I don't have an exact test to show you but I would estimate that the 5700 XT would be roughly a 50% uplift over the 980 Ti, though this will vary by game and I would say that answer is at best +/-10%.  As for value vs the Super series, you are correct, the 5700 XT is a better value unless you need the nvidia specific features like NVENC encoder, RTX, etc. or want to exceed that performance level (2080+).

well that sounds great to me,5700XT it is then,cant justify spending 100 dollars or more for maybe 10% more performance,and yeah for me rtx is just meh,and i wont need nvenc so ok i have a choice now thanks for the info everyone!

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13 hours ago, xreaperx22 said:

well that sounds great to me,5700XT it is then,cant justify spending 100 dollars or more for maybe 10% more performance,and yeah for me rtx is just meh,and i wont need nvenc so ok i have a choice now thanks for the info everyone!

I almost forgot, just make sure to get an AIB one (MSI, gigabyte, ASUS, etc ) and not the horrible reference blower that's loud and overheats.

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