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About a week ago sadly, my PC's motherboard bit the big one, mostly. The M.2 Slots no longer function and it took my 950 Pro SSD with them which really bummed me out, especially since it took me about a week of troubleshooting to figure out what exactly happened and even still I do not know what caused the failure still. I've decided that while sure I could get a SATA SSD, put windows on that, and carry on with the PC but I had plans to upgrade my build in the future anyways and figure now is as good a time as any. I am looking into a Ryzen 7 3700x and have been studying up on motherboards, since I do NOT want to go through this crap again, to find a good fit for me and my build and have been leaning towards ASUS's Crosshair VII Hero (Likely with Wi-Fi even though I don't need it) however a lot of recent reviews on places such as Amazon, Newegg, and B&H are concerning.

 

A bit of background, the first PC I hand picked parts for was with an FX 8350 and I matched it to a Crosshair V Formula Z board, which is still functioning to this day beautifully. My current machine has an Intel i7-6850k upon an Asrock Fatal1ty x99 Professional Gaming i7 board which is the one with the failed M.2 slots. Other than the failure, I actually really like the Asrock board, but of course this failure happened just a week after the 3 year warranty ended. With this newer CPU and board, I wanted to go back to ASUS since the Crosshair V is still performing great and being the owner of an ROG laptop that hasn't failed me once either, I knew ASUS likely wouldn't let me down with their superior quality. I thought I was set, but looking at several reviews on websites I could purchase the board many of them were quite negative. Most of which were DOA or very unstable. Is it possible that due to the release of x570, ASUS has dumbed-down their quality control for their older products in an effort to push potential buyers to the newer boards? If so, I'd much rather not spend an extra $100 for the newer Crosshair VIII board since I've no real need for x570 or their added cost premium.

 

Would it be worth it to me to go ahead and try the Crosshair VII, or would a different x470 board be more worth it in terms of quality and overclockability. If I am being completely honest, my only real reason for choosing it over another board is mostly my history with ASUS's higher end boards, the all important BIOS Flashback button (as I am a FIRM believer those need to be more standard on many more motherboards) and also due to my plan to water cool. Even though the CH7 doesn't need it, I wanted to get EKWB's Monoblock for the board since it looks REALLY good, but in the effort to ensure that I run into as little problems as possible (hopefully none at all) I'd be willing to for-go the monoblock idea should I get a board that works beautifully. 

 

For reference, in terms of my familiarity with various boards, I've only ever used ASUS, Asrock, and most recently for my brothers new PC an MSI x470 Gaming Pro Carbon which as I'm not the one presently using it, it's been working great for about a month now for him so it seems I set it up correctly. So any advice for a board that I can use and feel confident with would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading.

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  • CPU Ryzen 7 3700x
  • Motherboard Asus Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi)
  • RAM G.Skill Trident Z Royal (Silver) 3600Mhz 16Gb
  • GPU MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti Gaming 6G
  • Case Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition
  • Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500GB / 1x WD Black 3TB
  • PSU EVGA Supernova 1000x
  • Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
  • Displays Acer Predator x34 Ultrawide, LG 2558UM-P
  • Audio Schitt Audio Asgard 2 AMP, Bifrost Multibit DAC, Sennheiser HD600, Scarlett Focusrite 2i2, Audio Technica AT2035
  • Peripherals Corsair K70 LUX, Logitech G502 Spectrum, Razer Orbweaver, Thrustmaster T16000m x2 HOTAS
  • Extra Stuff Clutch Chairs Gear Series Elgato HD60 Pro, Elgato Streamdeck, Logitech c920 Webcam, Custom Built acoustic altering backboard.
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6 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

I knew ASUS likely wouldn't let me down with their superior quality.

If you pay the price premium (99% of the time), yes

 

8 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

but looking at several reviews on websites I could purchase the board many of them were quite negative. Most of which were DOA or very unstable.

only people with bad stuff have the incentive comment there

 

9 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

Is it possible that due to the release of x570, ASUS has dumbed-down their quality control for their older products in an effort to push potential buyers to the newer boards?

No, because they simply stop making boards once they used up their supply on chipsets (with spare for handling RMA of course)

 

10 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

worth it in terms of quality and overclockability.

It is the best as long as I dont consider the price

 

11 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

, the all important BIOS Flashback button (as I am a FIRM believer those need to be more standard on many more motherboards)

most flagship boards have one anyway, say the X470 Gaming 7 and M7 ACK. Taichi doesn't

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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14 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If you pay the price premium (99% of the time), yes

 

only people with bad stuff have the incentive comment there

 

No, because they simply stop making boards once they used up their supply on chipsets (with spare for handling RMA of course)

 

It is the best as long as I dont consider the price

 

most flagship boards have one anyway, say the X470 Gaming 7 and M7 ACK. Taichi doesn't

The M7 ACK is for Intel though, so I can't use it for a 3700x, but what I gather you've said, go for the CH7 then. Sounds good to me, guess I'll give it a go.

Mainframe:// SIVA

  • CPU Ryzen 7 3700x
  • Motherboard Asus Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi)
  • RAM G.Skill Trident Z Royal (Silver) 3600Mhz 16Gb
  • GPU MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti Gaming 6G
  • Case Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition
  • Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500GB / 1x WD Black 3TB
  • PSU EVGA Supernova 1000x
  • Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
  • Displays Acer Predator x34 Ultrawide, LG 2558UM-P
  • Audio Schitt Audio Asgard 2 AMP, Bifrost Multibit DAC, Sennheiser HD600, Scarlett Focusrite 2i2, Audio Technica AT2035
  • Peripherals Corsair K70 LUX, Logitech G502 Spectrum, Razer Orbweaver, Thrustmaster T16000m x2 HOTAS
  • Extra Stuff Clutch Chairs Gear Series Elgato HD60 Pro, Elgato Streamdeck, Logitech c920 Webcam, Custom Built acoustic altering backboard.
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2 hours ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

The M7 ACK is for Intel though, so I can't use it for a 3700x, but what I gather you've said, go for the CH7 then. Sounds good to me, guess I'll give it a go.

ah well, the X470 one is just called M7 AC

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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