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What do you guys think?

Intel 9980XE still seems to be faster but only by a hair width.

 

I wonder how far 10980XE will OC and I wonder if the new power plan for Ryzen will help it.

 

I wonder what 4000 series will bring.

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CPU: Intel Core i9 14900KS SP 109 (125P-79E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC6 1.43V (real voltage 1.305V + - Temps 77-80 P-Cores, 66-68 E-cores)

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RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

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Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

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PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

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Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

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12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

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HTPC: 13900KS SP111 5.9Ghz P-Core 4.8Ghz E-Core 1.43V LLC7 (Real Voltage 1.4V) with Supercool Direct Die, RTX 3090 ASUS Strix White with Active Water Block, ASUS Strix Z790-F Motherboard, 2x16GB DDR5 8000Mhz running 7600Mhz CL38, 4x 2TB Samsung 990 Pro NVMes, 3x 360mm EKWB PE White rads 3x 480mm external XE EKWB rads with 2x D5 pumps (single loop) with 21 Uni fans, G5 Odyssey 144Hz 1440p monitor, Keychron K3 slim mechanical keyboard and Basilisk Ultimate mouse, Corsair Elite Wireless headset.

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Didn't you watch Linus' video? Intel could take years to catch up. /s

 

The 10980XE would probably OC better than the 9980XE if Intel actual changed something besides the name. So in theory, it would be slightly better than the 3950X but only third party reviews will tell which is the better option.

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1 hour ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Intel 9980XE still seems to be faster but only by a hair width.

The results only showed an overclocked 7960X and 9980XE beating a stock 3950X, but stock 7980XE still lost in just about every graph in this vid.

 

10980XE is just 14nm+++++++ again so no meaningful IPC improvement, just small clock bump. I expect it to also be inferior to Ryzen.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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On 11/14/2019 at 2:11 PM, TheNaitsyrk said:

What do you guys think?

Intel 9980XE still seems to be faster but only by a hair width.

 

I wonder how far 10980XE will OC and I wonder if the new power plan for Ryzen will help it.

 

I wonder what 4000 series will bring.

on another posted I mentioned this to you about the 3950X going toe to toe with the upcoming 10980XE probably but at $250 less and on a consumer platform.  If you need more PCIe lanes just wait for TR 3000.  But as I remember you said your applications simply aren't optimized for AMD?  Sad since the 3900 and 3950X are killer chips

 

pre ordered a 3950X and I am putting it in a 13L NCase M1 w/ only a 240mm AIO since OptimumTech successfully did the same build, which is insane since my prior setup of a 18.5L Sliger Cerberus with a X399M 2950X could be barley be cooled with a custom loop.  Which brings up another point, even if the 10980XE is the better chip marginally it requires a large socket HEDT motherboard and at least a 360 AIO or custom loop.  For me personally I only build SFF so this automatically rules the chip out 

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The fact that you are asking the question is proof of how strong AMD's position is. The 10980XE is a more expense chip that also requires an HEDT board to run. Your total cost with AMD is probably $300-400 less. To me that makes AMD the clear winner unless you need some of the HEDT features like more PCIe lanes or quad channel RAM.

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On 11/20/2019 at 4:04 PM, sphbecker said:

The fact that you are asking the question is proof of how strong AMD's position is. The 10980XE is a more expense chip that also requires an HEDT board to run. Your total cost with AMD is probably $300-400 less. To me that makes AMD the clear winner unless you need some of the HEDT features like more PCIe lanes or quad channel RAM.

Correct. Nothing wrong here.

 

I simply have X299 EVGA Dark board, and pretty overkill cooling. Not to mention 2x 2080 Tis and couple of addin cards and multiple NVMEs. Extra PCI-E lanes will help.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 14900KS SP 109 (125P-79E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC6 1.43V (real voltage 1.305V + - Temps 77-80 P-Cores, 66-68 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

HTPC: 13900KS SP111 5.9Ghz P-Core 4.8Ghz E-Core 1.43V LLC7 (Real Voltage 1.4V) with Supercool Direct Die, RTX 3090 ASUS Strix White with Active Water Block, ASUS Strix Z790-F Motherboard, 2x16GB DDR5 8000Mhz running 7600Mhz CL38, 4x 2TB Samsung 990 Pro NVMes, 3x 360mm EKWB PE White rads 3x 480mm external XE EKWB rads with 2x D5 pumps (single loop) with 21 Uni fans, G5 Odyssey 144Hz 1440p monitor, Keychron K3 slim mechanical keyboard and Basilisk Ultimate mouse, Corsair Elite Wireless headset.

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