GTA 5 not going over 60 fps

[Kevino]

Hi,

I recently bought a 1080 so I would get better GTA fps but still at 60. Sometimes it dips to 57 but not over 60.

Can you help me?

[vK 3 1 RON]

What's your CPU?

[Tristerin]

All of your specs please.

 

If your CPU builds a bag that holds 3 lbs of frames but your gpu can produce 5 lbs of frames per second you still only get 3 lbs.  If your monitor only is 60hz refresh, you wont benefit over 60 FPS its #engineering.  If you have it locked on VSYNC with a 60hz monitor it will never go above the 60 FPS either.

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

21 hours ago, Tristerin said:

All of your specs please.

 

If your CPU builds a bag that holds 3 lbs of frames but your gpu can produce 5 lbs of frames per second you still only get 3 lbs.  If your monitor only is 60hz refresh, you wont benefit over 60 FPS its #engineering.  If you have it locked on VSYNC with a 60hz monitor it will never go above the 60 FPS either.

 

 

They're saying they have drops though,  not that they want more fps in general. 

 

I agree though specs would be important to determine the issue 

[Tristerin]

21 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

They're saying they have drops though,  not that they want more fps in general. 

 

I agree though specs would be important to determine the issue 

But not over 60 (is part of the question from the OP)

 

Likely a CPU bottleneck as my R9 Fury can do this on Ultra no problem - until its Online Play (which can dip in the 50s but maintains 80 ave FPS with my R7 1700 OC)- which is likely where the OP is also hurting his FPS (low end CPU, Online Play) but I want more facts before telling him that.

[Man]

On 11/14/2019 at 2:05 AM, Kevino said:

Hi,

I recently bought a 1080 so I would get better GTA fps but still at 60. Sometimes it dips to 57 but not over 60.

Can you help me?

Do you have V-Sync on by any chance?!

 

 

Anyhow, regardless of what people say on the internet, you don't need more than 60 FPS on a 60Hz monitor. It's totally pointless. In fact, gaming beyond 60FPS is pointless, period. But of course the world is full of people who'd 'disrespectfully' disagree with me, as if they can change my 30 YO mind!

 

With age comes wisdom... 

 

Personally, I ALWAYS play with V-Sync on, preferably at 1080p 60FPS as I just can't stand screen tearing and don't care much about input lag or ultra high frame rates. In cases when a game can't touch 60 (Happens all the time with my GT440) I either scale down the resolution to 720p or just cap everything to 30FPS!

 

As a matter of fact, I've just finished GTA-III for the very first time (Never cared about it, TBH) at default 30FPS cap with V-Sync (Too unstable beyond 30 IMO) and the experience was... Fantastic!

 

TL;DR Don't fall for the marketing hype. 

[Praesi]

Turn Vsync off...and 60fps is all you need with 60hz...

[Kevino]

Thanks for all the help. I just realized VSync's lock after the post. My big question is why is it dipping below 60fps? My gpu's usage never goes over 55%, cpu not over 60%.

I don't see the bottleneck.

Specs:

-Ryzen 5 2600 @3.85GHz

-Evga gtx 1080 founder1s edition

-G.skill Aegis 2*8GB @2933MHz

-Corsair Rm650x

[Paul Rudd]

56 minutes ago, Kevino said:

My big question is why is it dipping below 60fps?

Is it dipping below 60 in single player? Also, what resolution are you playing at? And what graphic settings are you using? Presets? Custom settings?

 

And btw, that CPU and GPU usage in GTA 5 with your current hardware is completely normal.

 

Things I've discovered that can affect fps in GTA 5 the most no matter what hardware you're running:

• GTA Online, more assets, more people, the more people are doing, the more things are rendered at once
• The Casino, it limits your fps when inside it
• Certain individual graphic settings, tops ones are MSAA/TXAA, Ext Distance Scaling, Grass, Shaders, Reflections, Shadows and Soft Shadows
• Certain high demanding areas, especially inside the city
• Mods
• Resolution
• RAM speed
• CPU clock speed
• Self Radio, this mostly affects CPU usage, pushes it higher depending on your CPU and how many songs you have in your Music folder
• Others, can't remember them all right now

You could have the greatest hardware on earth and GTA 5 is still going to dip below 60 if the things listed above are on your screen. If you don't want to see it dip below 60 then simply tweak/get rid of what I've listed above.

[Kevino]

It is doing it in single player too. Mostly when I fly near land. But why won't the gpu work harder? I even tried to turn off VSync. When off it goes up to 75fps but dips down as low as 45fps. I'll attach a benchmark doc for you.

Benchmark-19-12-01-15-59-32.txt

[Paul Rudd]

8 minutes ago, Kevino said:

It is doing it in single player too. Mostly when I fly near land. But why won't the gpu work harder? I even tried to turn off VSync. When off it goes up to 75fps but dips down as low as 45fps. I'll attach a benchmark doc for you.

Insane hardware right? Watch from the 25:00 mark and entering the 26:00 mark, watch what happens.

 

It's not your hardware, it's the game.

[Kevino]

How is this possible? At least his gpu is utilized at 90%.

[Paul Rudd]

23 minutes ago, Kevino said:

How is this possible? At least his gpu is utilized at 90%.

I'd guess it's because you're not playing on max settings as he is. If you want more GPU usage(why I have no clue), simply bump MSAA up to x8 or bump up Shadows, bump up Texture Quality. Anything that uses tons of VRAM really. Just understand that by doing so, some of those settings are going to hit fps.

 

It seems you don't have Texture Quality at max and you have Grass Quality too high. Set Texture Quality at max because it barely affects fps at all and set Grass Quality to Normal as it affects fps quite a bit. And don't think having Grass Quality at Normal means it looks bad. I love it at Normal because not only does it just make grass look more like a terrain, it makes driving much easier.

 

Population Variety would be another thing to bump up to 100% for more GPU usage as it does not affect fps. But don't bump up Extended Distance Scaling for GPU usage as it affects fps quite a bit. Going from 0% to 100% is around literally 20 fps, give or take. I recommend 0% to 50% as that only hits fps by around 7-9 fps when using 50%. I personally set it to 0% because not only do I want that 7-9 fps, what it does to the game visually just does not bother me one bit.

 

What I'm explaining to you for each of the graphic settings in the game is a way to keep a more stable fps throughout the entire game world. If you'd like to know more, just let me know as I have heavily researched what each individual graphic setting does to the game both visually and performance wise.

 

I mean, I'm getting fps very similar to what that dude above is getting and I play the game in 1440p using a 2015 i5 clocked at 3.2 GHz paired with a 1070 using just DDR4-2133 RAM. And the best part is that my game play looks almost identical to his game play. He might get well over 100 fps in certain city areas but that's because of his insanely high RAM speed as well as having double the amount of cores in his CPU.

[Kevino]

I changed the settings you suggested and it worked! I'm very thankful for your help.

[Paul Rudd]

45 minutes ago, Kevino said:

I changed the settings you suggested and it worked! I'm very thankful for your help.

You're welcome. I actually just made a 30 second video driving in the exact same spot at the 26:00 mark in the video above to show just what custom graphic settings can do for ya'. I'd have made a longer video but my upload speed isn't the greatest and it would have taken longer to upload the video to YouTube.

Glad my suggestions worked out for you.

 

Ignore the fps drop to 71 in the beginning of the video as it does that when I start recording. If you'll notice where his fps drops once he hits this jump, my fps rises. His max settings, Grass Quality in particular, have a lot to do with that. And I'm in GTA Online as well. He's in Story mode. Oh and YouTube dumbs down the quality as well as the frame rate of my game play so don't think it's blurry like this when I'm playing the game. It's as clear and smooth as can be.