Which 240Hz Monitor should I get?

[Rankhole]

Hi there,

 

I am currently looking for a new 240Hz display. What's really important for me is:

1. At least 1080p
2. 240Hz with *minimal* ghosting

 

I currently have a 144Hz MSI Optix MAG271CQR and am not quite as happy as I should be. It's a 1440p panel with 144Hz, but it somehow feels unsmooth because of the high amount of ghosting that's going on.

Now, I have two Monitors that might interest me, for different reasons:

One is the Benq XL2546, which is a 1080p 24" 240Hz display with the - supposably great - DyAc Anti Motion Blur, which would be great for CS:GO and other games in generall, as I'd love to have flicker free, non brightness reducing anti blur.

Then there is the Benq XL2740, which is a 1080p 27" 240Hz display. This one lacks the DyAc technology, but is 27" big (which is great, since I'd be rocking a dual monitor setup with my currently also 27" monitor), and also has G-Sync, which the other monitor lags.

 

So...I'm really in a dilemma here. And I'd like to get a couple of other opinions from you guys.

Which one is a better buy?

In terms of price, XL2546 retails for around 490 euros in Germany, while I can get the XL2740 for 520 euros. So the price isn't the issue here.

 

What's a better "have":

1. DyAc technology
2. or 27" with G-Sync?

 

Best regards,

 

Rankhole

[Doobeedoo]

I'd personally go with smaller one though, especially when going 1080p 240Hz route though. 

[Velcade]

1080p is really built for 24" monitors. Since, currenlty, 240hz is only available at 1080p I'd go with the Benq XL2546

[Mihle]

1080p on anything above 24" is a big no from me because the pixels gets so big.

[Rankhole]

Thanks for the opinions guys!

What about the lack of G-Sync support though? 

[SolarNova]

21 hours ago, Rankhole said:

Hi there,

 

I am currently looking for a new 240Hz display. What's really important for me is:

1. At least 1080p
2. 240Hz with *minimal* ghosting

 

I currently have a 144Hz MSI Optix MAG271CQR and am not quite as happy as I should be. It's a 1440p panel with 144Hz, but it somehow feels unsmooth because of the high amount of ghosting that's going on.

Now, I have two Monitors that might interest me, for different reasons:

One is the Benq XL2546, which is a 1080p 24" 240Hz display with the - supposably great - DyAc Anti Motion Blur, which would be great for CS:GO and other games in generall, as I'd love to have flicker free, non brightness reducing anti blur.

Then there is the Benq XL2740, which is a 1080p 27" 240Hz display. This one lacks the DyAc technology, but is 27" big (which is great, since I'd be rocking a dual monitor setup with my currently also 27" monitor), and also has G-Sync, which the other monitor lags.

 

So...I'm really in a dilemma here. And I'd like to get a couple of other opinions from you guys.

Which one is a better buy?

In terms of price, XL2546 retails for around 490 euros in Germany, while I can get the XL2740 for 520 euros. So the price isn't the issue here.

 

What's a better "have":

1. DyAc technology
2. or 27" with G-Sync?

 

Best regards,

 

Rankhole

Out of the 4 rtings have reviewed the Omen X25f is the only on worth considering.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/hp/omen-x-25f

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/13575

 

 

The BenQ XL2540 and 2546 are nearly identical, and the 2540 rtings reviewed suffered form overshoot and relatively poor uniformity.

 

[Rankhole]

On 11/8/2019 at 7:32 PM, SolarNova said:

Out of the 4 rtings have reviewed the Omen X25f is the only on worth considering.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/hp/omen-x-25f

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/13575

 

 

The BenQ XL2540 and 2546 are nearly identical, and the 2540 rtings reviewed suffered form overshoot and relatively poor uniformity.

 

I've checked that review site for other monitors, and it claims that my current monitor is "great" in terms of motion blur, which is absolutely not true. It's complete garbage because of ghosting. They mention this and say that "there is noticable under- and overshoot", but still give it a 9.3/10?

Idk about that if you ask me. Is the Omen X25f really that good?

Also, even the 2540 got a better rating in the gaming category than the X25f.

[SolarNova]

5 hours ago, Rankhole said:

I've checked that review site for other monitors, and it claims that my current monitor is "great" in terms of motion blur, which is absolutely not true. It's complete garbage because of ghosting. They mention this and say that "there is noticable under- and overshoot", but still give it a 9.3/10?

Idk about that if you ask me. Is the Omen X25f really that good?

Also, even the 2540 got a better rating in the gaming category than the X25f.

Ok so , rtings score system is explained on their site.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/motion/motion-blur-and-response-time

 

For response time it is scored as so.

50% of the score comes from the 80% transition results

50% comes from the 100% transition results.

The 80% and 100% results are each an 'average' of the 12 transitions they measure.

 

So the overall score is based on the average 80% and 100% response times. Those response times are considered good when below 8ms for 80% and 20ms for 100%, with noticeable improvements at 4ms and 10ms respectively.

 

They also have to rate this against other monitors as well. So while this monitor may have some poor transition speeds, and some overshoot, it is still good vs others that can be truly terrible.

 

That said it does not excuse a monitor that simply isnt fast enough.

3.3ms 80% and 7.9ms 100% averages are all well any good but for a 240hz those 100% speeds are not fast enough, and the outliers (the maximums) most certainly are not good enough. hence why ur noticing blurring.

 

Their assessment is still correct, for a LCD monitor it has great response times especially vs the majority of LCD monitors ..but LCD monitors in general dont have fast enough response times for truly blur free motion. So the scores have to be based and calibrated to represent a score vs the 'average' monitor. And vs the average monitor is is very good.

 

The Omen X25f is the only 240hz TN panel that has acceptable uniformity. Usually the faster the panel regardless of panel type, the worse the uniformity, making the image look terrible. The Omen x25f is one of a total of 5 displays that, out of all reviewed monitors, has both a high frequency and passable uniformity. What makes it stand out more so from the other 4 however is that its the only monitor with both high frequency, and passable uniformity,  that also has a very good pixel response speeds.

 

Now im never going to outright suggest som1 who wants a quality image to get a TN panel, however for som1 who wants a gaming panel, the X25f is, out of those reviewed, the only one that is good for competitive gaming that also doesnt have terrible uniformity. For example like the Acer Nitro XF252Q which has great pixel response but catastrophically bad uniformity at only 1.8/10 score.

 

Now as for the 'gaming' overall score.

You can see how its broken down by hovering the curser over the ? .

8% of the score is based on 'image flicker' . The X25f scores lower here becouse it doesnt have BFI, while the XL2540 does have it.

the X25f also looses out on a few other points just barely. This adds up to a slightly less overall 'gaming' score. BUT in the most important features for a gaming display it edges out the XL2540.

 

its important that individual test results are used in comparison more so than 'overall' scores in any broad aspect of the display. The broad overall scores are their to help simplify the review score for the average reader, but in doing so does loose some accuracy. You shouldnt base a judgment purely on that especially if ur after something specific from a display.

[Envit0]

How about Aw2518hf? Freesync (works with Gsync) 24inch, great colors for TN panel? Pricewise lower as well. Would not go for DyAc unless you only play competitive FPS (CS:GO) and nothing else. Freesync/Gsync personally is much more favorable as a visual enhancement.

 

And what made you decide to go for 240hz panel? There are plenty of posts here in forum where people recommend to rather leave TN panels in the dustbin since other panels improved by quite big margin (response time, ghosting etc. wise) 

[Lekron]

On 11/8/2019 at 7:36 AM, Velcade said:

1080p is really built for 24" monitors. Since, currenlty, 240hz is only available at 1080p I'd go with the Benq XL2546

There are actually a couple of 1440p monitors on the market that are 240hz right now. Just an FYI

[Rankhole]

On 11/12/2019 at 4:33 PM, Envit0 said:

How about Aw2518hf? Freesync (works with Gsync) 24inch, great colors for TN panel? Pricewise lower as well. Would not go for DyAc unless you only play competitive FPS (CS:GO) and nothing else. Freesync/Gsync personally is much more favorable as a visual enhancement.

 

And what made you decide to go for 240hz panel? There are plenty of posts here in forum where people recommend to rather leave TN panels in the dustbin since other panels improved by quite big margin (response time, ghosting etc. wise) 

I want to go to 240Hz because I really, really want as much responsiveness as possible. In competitive games where I can easily reach that refresh rate, I'd benefit from it.

I've also now looked at the HP Omen X 27, which seems to be a 27 inch, 1440p 240Hz monitor.

 

@SolarNova do you think X 27 would be as good as the X 25f in terms of the criteria you mentioned?

[SolarNova]

36 minutes ago, Rankhole said:

I want to go to 240Hz because I really, really want as much responsiveness as possible. In competitive games where I can easily reach that refresh rate, I'd benefit from it.

I've also now looked at the HP Omen X 27, which seems to be a 27 inch, 1440p 240Hz monitor.

 

@SolarNova do you think X 27 would be as good as the X 25f in terms of the criteria you mentioned?

No.

The X27 has worse uniformity. and worse contrast even with its lackluster local dimming.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/hp/omen-x-27

 

But for pure competitive gaming the response time is fast and the input lag low