Looking to build a new PC

[Z.S]

Will a 1000W PSU be good for an SLI system I am planning to do a custom loop build (I am not building the PC yet but am slowly getting some of the parts in and will probably end up going for Ryzen 4000 series and possibly the RTX 3000 series GPU's I will probably have all the money saved by then).

ALSO The reason I am bringing this up now is because I will plan to buy some of the parts such as PSU and storage around about now due to sales like Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals or something like that as I could easily snatch up a huge bargain. I mean I got £40 off my Corsair K70 RGB Rapidfire back in 2016 off amazon who had it for £154.99 which was a huge discount from the £150-£160 most retailers were selling it for and I even got 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666Mhz around the same time for £30 off and I ended up paying just under £60 which back then was so cheap as RAM prices were rising

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Z.S said:

Will a 1000W PSU be good for an SLI system

an sli system in general isnt good.....

 

[Z.S]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

an sli system in general isnt good.....

 

It will be more powerful than a non SLI for gaming I just want high FPS at 1440p or 4k with HDR and RTX

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Z.S said:

It will be more powerful than a non SLI for gaming I just want high FPS at 1440p or 4k with HDR and RTX

you're spending 100% more the cost for a 50% gpu only speed increase...... in games that actually still support sli....... provided nvidia even still supports it in the future...

[George.]

6 minutes ago, Z.S said:

Will a 1000W PSU be good for an SLI system I am planning to do a custom loop build (I am not building the PC yet but am slowly getting some of the parts in and will probably end up going for Ryzen 4000 series and possibly the RTX 3000 series GPU's I will probably have all the money saved by then).

ALSO The reason I am bringing this up now is because I will plan to buy some of the parts such as PSU and storage around about now due to sales like Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals or something like that as I could easily snatch up a huge bargain. I mean I got £40 off my Corsair K70 RGB Rapidfire back in 2016 off amazon who had it for £154.99 which was a huge discount from the £150-£160 most retailers were selling it for and I even got 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666Mhz around the same time for £30 off and I ended up paying just under £60 which back then was so cheap as RAM prices were rising

1KW PSU is plenty for any reasonable build. Actually an overkill for most decent budget builds.

SLI is kind of a thing of the past at this point... you're better off just getting a single beefy GPU. As for Ryzen - it's pretty sick for budget building. Good luck with the upcoming discounts and don't forget about Christmas discounts as well.

[Dedayog]

So when are you actually considering building this thing?  Ryzen 4xxx is a bit off.

 

But to answer you, yes 1000w will be enough power for SLI as things are looking.

 

SLI isn't the best thing to do but it's your money.  Having to save up for SLI just sounds like a a very bad decision.

[Z.S]

OBVIOUSLY you get less performance per dollar for getting 2 GPU's its like comparing a Honda Civic to cheaper Ferrari or Lamborghini obviously they will not perform twice as good but they are still faster

[Dedayog]

Just now, Z.S said:

OBVIOUSLY you get less performance per dollar for getting 2 GPU's its like comparing a Honda Civic to cheaper Ferrari or Lamborghini obviously they will not perform twice as good but they are still faster

Yeah, but considering that most games treat SLI like a city street you won't unleash that speed very well.

 

Ferrari's in a subdivision are faster than a Civic, but still a waste of money.

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Z.S said:

OBVIOUSLY you get less performance per dollar for getting 2 GPU's its like comparing a Honda Civic to cheaper Ferrari or Lamborghini obviously they will not perform twice as good but they are still faster

if price to performance isn't a concern then don't buy consumer hardware

[Z.S]

Ryzen 4000 is not a long way I watch lots of tech news youtube channels and according to rumours and leaks Intel is announcing new CPU's at CES 2020 because AMD has pretty much almost caught up in IPC and as a result I heard AMD is trying to get their CPU's out around as early as Computex 2020 and Nvidia is apparently releasing 3000 series  in the first half of 2020 as they haven't really released any new GPU's at all since 2018 with every consumer GPU launch of theirs just being slight upgrades to existing GPU's and they haven't even released a 2080 Ti successor yet

[Z.S]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

if price to performance isn't a concern then don't buy consumer hardware

Price to performance is not the biggest concern for me but getting my PC parts for as little as possible is almost everything I have in my setup and my current PC I got on sale or discount besides the monitor

[Dedayog]

Just now, Z.S said:

Ryzen 4000 is not a long way I watch lots of tech news youtube channels and according to rumours and leaks Intel is announcing new CPU's at CES 2020 because AMD has pretty much almost caught up in IPC and as a result I heard AMD is trying to get their CPU's out around as early as Computex 2020 and Nvidia is apparently releasing 3000 series  in the first half of 2020 as they haven't really released any new GPU's at all since 2018 with every consumer GPU launch of theirs just being slight upgrades to existing GPU's and they haven't even released a 2080 Ti successor yet

Right, so go thru all this parts stuff when you can actually buy stuff.

 

Or are you at the point that you kind of have to buy it all piecemeal since you don't have the funds for buying it all together?

 

You can do that with a few parts, but without knowing what  CPU/GPU... 

[Z.S]

Just now, jstudrawa said:

Right, so go thru all this parts stuff when you can actually buy stuff.

 

Or are you at the point that you kind of have to buy it all piecemeal since you don't have the funds for buying it all together?

 

You can do that with a few parts, but without knowing what  CPU/GPU... 

I am only buying the stuff I can still use when the setup is complete such as the PSU because I can get Black Friday/Cyber Monday discounts on them if they happen to be on sale/discount

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Z.S said:

Price to performance is not the biggest concern for me but getting my PC parts for as little as possible

ok well we can find you a 100,000$ tower that is marked down by a few k seeing as theres no budget requirement or logic requirement and only a "discount" requirement

[Z.S]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

ok well we can find you a 100,000$ tower that is marked down by a few k seeing as theres no budget requirement or logic requirement and only a "discount" requirement

you clearly are not understanding are you 100k for a gaming machine is obviously too expensive even if I were a millionaire or something I wouldn't bother with a system that much for just gaming paying a 1K or so more (which is probably like 30-40% on top the whole systems price) for like up to 60-80% more performance is not the same as paying like almost 100x as much for like 200% more performance or whatever

[Princess Luna]

28 minutes ago, Z.S said:

n SLI system

Most games these days don't even support it any more meaning there would be no performance gains to begin with.

 

Others are usually a stuttering mess.... no even if you don't care about value and $ and just want the best you are better off buying a good 2080 Ti and calling it a day...

 

To put things into perspective: AMD has officially phased out Crossfire... nVidia already only enables it on their highest end, there's real chance next gen it also dies entirely.

[emosun]

7 minutes ago, Z.S said:

for like up to 60-80% more performance

i dont fully think they are aware how little sli does

 

even if he has 5 people telling him its a bad idea.... some people just need to learn the hard way

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

i dont fully think they are aware how little sli does

 

even if he has 5 people telling him its a bad idea.... some people just need to learn the hard way

Depends on the games. I didn't have the Witcher 3 at the time so I didn't test that, but EA's Battlefront 2015 scaled perfectly for me. 134-144fps at 4K ultra/no AA is a pretty fuckin nice number (I had SLI 1080s). But it's hit or miss, even games like Rise of The Tomb Raider (even with the recommended tweaks for better SLI performance) didn't scale well, frametimes were a horrid mess. Similar with Destiny 2, it scaled fine-ish but frametimes were wack so it stuttered a lot. 

That said I do want to use SLI again for a couple good reasons: I wanna mess with further tweaks to get it to work better in my games, and dual cards just look pretty. Also you're more likely to get better perf with an SLI setup vs a single card, but mostly in older games. Most new stuff doesn't really support SLI. Back to battlefront again, Battlefront 2015 scaled absolutely flawlessly, perfectly smooth and 99% usage on both cards at 1440p and 4K (at 1080p it slapped far beyond the max refresh of my 144Hz monitor and only hit 60-70% on both cards), but Battlefront II 2017 was a horrible mess, didn't like SLI at all. 

Basically it looks pretty, can be fun to tweak, and you're more likely to get better performance than with a single card (if you have a single 2080 Ti for example, you can't really move up so adding a second one is the only way to maybe get a perf increase in some titles). If you have the money for it and are willing to mess with it then it's not that terrible of a choice. If you decide to render stuff or run F@H you'll do way more with 2 cards than with one as well . 

[Sorenson]

36 minutes ago, Z.S said:

Ryzen 4000 is not a long way I watch lots of tech news youtube channels and according to rumours and leaks Intel is announcing new CPU's at CES 2020 because AMD has pretty much almost caught up in IPC and as a result I heard AMD is trying to get their CPU's out around as early as Computex 2020 and Nvidia is apparently releasing 3000 series  in the first half of 2020 as they haven't really released any new GPU's at all since 2018 with every consumer GPU launch of theirs just being slight upgrades to existing GPU's and they haven't even released a 2080 Ti successor yet

The 4000 series will be teased at CES not released then. This is what they did with the 3000 series. I wouldn't expect the 4000 series until Julyish 2020.

[Z.S]

2 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

The 4000 series will be teased at CES not released then. This is what they did with the 3000 series. I wouldn't expect the 4000 series until Julyish 2020.

WHEN did I say that all I said was Intel is apparently trying to release new mainstream CPU's as early as CES due the increased AMD competition to the point where AMD is almost at the same performance rate as Intel when it comes to gaming which was like the biggest market Intel still had the performance advantage and I said that as a result AMD were going to retaliate and try to hurry up with their Ryzen 4000 launch

[Sorenson]

16 minutes ago, Z.S said:

WHEN did I say that all I said was Intel is apparently trying to release new mainstream CPU's as early as CES due the increased AMD competition to the point where AMD is almost at the same performance rate as Intel when it comes to gaming which was like the biggest market Intel still had the performance advantage and I said that as a result AMD were going to retaliate and try to hurry up with their Ryzen 4000 launch

You said "ryzen 4000 is not long away". It came across like you were under the impression that it was coming out around CES. You're being kind of hostile in a lot of your replies. I just wanted to clarify when you should expect the release date in case you had some bad information.