Used vega 56 or new rx 5700

[Toheed]

I am getting xfx vega 56 blower for 220$ while the rx 5700 here costs around 410 for blower and 430 for pulse model. Which one should I go for? Rn I am using rx 580 and I am unable to get to 144fps in esports games 1080p. I just want a gpu which will let me do 144fps on 1080p esports and 60+ on AAA games.

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, Toheed said:

Rn I am using rx 580 and I am unable to get to 144fps in esports games 1080p.

This is alarming as the RX580 shouldn't have an issue to achieve this.

 

What are you other system components?

[Turtle Rig]

15 minutes ago, Toheed said:

I am getting xfx vega 56 blower for 220$ while the rx 5700 here costs around 410 for blower and 430 for pulse model. Which one should I go for? Rn I am using rx 580 and I am unable to get to 144fps in esports games 1080p. I just want a gpu which will let me do 144fps on 1080p esports and 60+ on AAA games.

You will get your 144fps with the Vega at 1080p and possibly minor tweaks.

[Toheed]

12 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

This is alarming as the RX580 shouldn't have an issue to achieve this.

 

What are you other system components?

Ryzen 2600

16gb ddr4 3200mhz 

Yeah rx580 is fine in most games but with new games coming like Cod( I get around 90-110fps on low settings) I am sure that the gpu is gonna have hard time letting me get to 144fps.

[Toheed]

4 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

You will get your 144fps with the Vega at 1080p and possibly minor tweaks.

But should I go for used vega or new rx 5700 which is almlst 200$ more. (Both blowers tho)

[Turtle Rig]

10 minutes ago, Toheed said:

But should I go for used vega or new rx 5700 which is almlst 200$ more. (Both blowers tho)

Grab the used Vega.  New video cards are right around the corner so you can save up on your next VC in 2 years or so.

[Toheed]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Grab the used Vega.  New video cards are right around the corner so you can save up on your next VC in 2 years or so.

Alright cool. I hope it won't be loud af or thermal throttle .

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, Toheed said:

Alright cool. I hope it won't be loud af or thermal throttle .

All video cards with fan spinning 100 percent is loud as heck.  On the desktop tho it is silent you can hear it.  Also when you game use a headset so you don't hear the GPU fan noise.

[Princess Luna]

11 minutes ago, Toheed said:

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I don't think that calling CoD MW an e-sports is the most accurate ever, it's built to be a triple a game, it has an eye candy campaign like battlefield along and all.

 

But that aside, now that we have a better grasp of what is going on then you really should go with the RX 5700 already, It's expensive sure but it's blower cooler is a whole lot better than Vega's and the performance jump is real.

 

The next step to the RX580 (excluding it's RX590 refresh) is the Vega 56 so you're spending already a considerable amount of money in the first place, might as well get something worthy of an upgrade.

 

That said your Ryzen 5 2600 also is probably not going to get to 144fps regardless how low you go with GPU settings, the thing is it gets to a point the "bottleneck" the processing part that can't do it's job fast enough to keep the other processing part busy. In this case by going say all low you have made the load so easy for the video card the bottleneck becomes your CPU.

 

Zen+ certainly isn't terrible but it's far from Zen 2 in gaming specifically, let alone what you're trying to achieve would likely require an i7 9700KF at least... 144fps on that game is not that easy to achieve and certainly won't happen just by buying either the two GPU you are considering.

[Toheed]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

I don't think that calling CoD MW an e-sports is the most accurate ever, it's built to be a triple a game, it has an eye candy campaign like battlefield along and all.

 

But that aside, now that we have a better grasp of what is going on then you really should go with the RX 5700 already, It's expensive sure but it's blower cooler is a whole lot better than Vega's and the performance jump is real.

 

The next step to the RX580 (excluding it's RX590 refresh) is the Vega 56 so you're spending already a considerable amount of money in the first place, might as well get something worthy of an upgrade.

 

That said your Ryzen 5 2600 also is probably not going to get to 144fps regardless how low you go with GPU settings, the thing is it gets to a point the "bottleneck" the processing part that can't do it's job fast enough to keep the other processing part busy. In this case by going say all low you have made the load so easy for the video card the bottleneck becomes your CPU.

 

Zen+ certainly isn't terrible but it's far from Zen 2 in gaming specifically, let alone what you're trying to achieve would likely require an i7 9700KF at least... 144fps on that game is not that easy to achieve and certainly won't happen just by buying either the two GPU you are considering.

I am considering about switching my cpu with r5 3600. And btw I will sale my rx 580 for 120/130$ so I just need to add 60 more $ for the vega 56. 

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, Toheed said:

I am considering about switching my cpu with r5 3600. And btw I will sale my rx 580 for 120/130$ so I just need to add 60 more $ for the vega 56. 

Sure, it's your pick.

 

I'd still stay away from the V56 and prefer the much newer, much more efficient card that will run surprisingly quieter and colder.

 

Here is a performance comparison on the great scheme of things, there is a noteworthy jump from the two cards, if you're bothered you can't play this game today at 144fps, why buy something that will only be able to do this now and not next year's cod? Will you go and spend again and again?

 

On your specific case it's better value get a little breathing room.

 

Cheers,

 

Spoiler

 

[Toheed]

8 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Sure, it's your pick.

 

I'd still stay away from the V56 and prefer the much newer, much more efficient card that will run surprisingly quieter and colder.

 

Here is a performance comparison on the great scheme of things, there is a noteworthy jump from the two cards, if you're bothered you can't play this game today at 144fps, why buy something that will only be able to do this now and not next year's cod? Will you go and spend again and again?

 

On your specific case it's better value get a little breathing room.

 

Cheers,

 

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Yeah you are right maybe I should save up a little bit and go for 5700 or 5700xt. Don't want to change gpu every year.