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New build around the H200

Tarzan

Hello,

 

I'm currently on my almost 5-year-old build (standard at the time: i5 4690k / GTX 970 combo). It has served me well and I now think it's the right time to upgrade: big enough performance gap to justify the change.

 

Now, the thing is I would like to go from an ATX build (actually E-ATX as my Cooler Master StormTrooper allows it) to an ITX build. Not SFFPC per se, since the case I'm leaning towards is the NZXT H200. Here is the list of the components:

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€209.85 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€142.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€153.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€111.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB MINI Video Card  (€542.54 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: NZXT H200 Mini ITX Tower Case  (€79.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€99.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1526.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 22:24 CET+0100

 

 

I like the idea of a small PC with a 280mm radiator and 4 fans. OnPCPartPicker it says the H200 cannot accomodate a 280mm but it does.

I'm leaning towards the Zotac 2070 super mini (209mm) since I have 245mm of GPU clearance with 2 fans width+radiator (push/pull). If I only do push I have 25mm more and could fit an EVGA 2070 Super. I would have liked to go with the 5700 XT but unfortunately they're a tad too big.

 

What are your recommendations for this build ? (EU area)

 

It would kinda look like this but with a shorter GPU:

 

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6 minutes ago, Tarzan said:

Single channel memory, big no

 

7 minutes ago, Tarzan said:

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€173.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 

The MSI ITX board is much cheaper for the same performance, tho its red accents may break the colour scheme

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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My mistake for the single channel, I misclicked on PCPartPicker. Of course it will be dual channel, but I think I will have to rotate the AIO in order to fit the closer ram.

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The MSI ITX board is much cheaper for the same performance, tho its red accents may break the colour scheme

Don't take the price into account, it's messed up for Belgium. I can buy anything in Europe without any fees anyway (Amazon Espana, Italia, Deutsch, French, England + other websites). The Asus is around 140€ and indeed it's mainly black :).

 

4 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Cut the pull and get a bigger gpu. The zotac mini is just a hot turd of a 2070. It’s not small enough to be itx and it’s not large enough to actually stay cool. 

I didn't saw any review of the 2070 super mini... too new yet? But the reviews of the 2070 mini are kinda ok, hitting 70° maximum under load. I could go with a 2060 super mini as well if that's better? I don't play triple A games: Age of Empires II, Rocket League, Cities Skylines, etc.

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I'm eventually going with an air cooler instead of AIO liquid cooled, allowing more space for the GPU.

I have also updated the case to the H210.

And replaced the GPU with a full size 2060 Super.

 

Is there enough headers on the mobo to get all the fans? (at least 4: two in front, two for the NH D15). Or should I get some Corsair Commander Pro?

How do I know if the NH D15 is compatible with the ram? Should I get lower profile ones?

No issue with air intake if I put an ATX PSU instead of SFX in this case? Gpu is 2 slot so it should allows some air from underneath.

 

The build will look like this, but in black:

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($102.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($419.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($103.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A15 HS-PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1278.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-11 06:47 EST-0500

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