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I have a PC with a SATA II hard drive that will be transplanted into a Ryzen PC, and of course the windows install in this hard drive is super slow. Reinstalling is not desirable, as it will be a ton of work to reinstall all the games, mods, and programs, so even though that's the better solution, it's not an option at the moment.

 

Does StoreMI work just as well with a crappy old hard drive? Lots of benchmarks exist with modern drives, but I'm hoping that the terrible access times of this older drive don't cripple the cached speeds of an SSD. There are some really cheap M.2 SSDs I was considering that would make this a pretty attractive approach, if it wasn't a waste of money.

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I believe with store mi, Max size drive is 128GB on the free version. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I believe with store mi, Max size drive is 128GB on the free version. 

Wouldn't be a problem, spending a little extra on a 250GB SSD wouldn't be super helpful in this case. The real cheap SSDs are the 128GB models.

 

21 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

But really, id just get a bigger ssd, and do a full cone over.

Last time I tried to clone this specific hard drive, something funky happened with the boot sectors and it wouldn't boot into windows on the new drive. I'd be willing to try again, but as of now I'm assuming it will likely fail again. Mind you, it was multiple attempts too.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

Last time I tried to clone this specific hard drive, something funky happened with the boot sectors and it wouldn't boot into windows on the new drive. I'd be willing to try again, but as of now I'm assuming it will likely fail again. Mind you, it was multiple attempts too.

What did you clone with?

 

What size is the old drive?

 

Id just do a block level clone with dd

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

What did you clone with?

EaseUS, I've been able to use it before

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What size is the old drive?

250GB

 

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id just do a block level clone with dd

Never used it before, is it convenient? I'd be willing to try for sure.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Never used it before, is it convenient? I'd be willing to try for sure.

Yea super easy to use,  Just tell it the drive to clone from and too. DD just copying blocks, so its exactly the same. Other cloning programs will clone boot sectors and then copy files to a new filesystem, and that can sometimes cause issues.

 

Id get a 500gb ssd, there not much more, a bit faster, and the space will probably be nice. Then extend the partition when it finished cloning.

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13 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Wouldn't be a problem, spending a little extra on a 250GB SSD wouldn't be super helpful in this case. The real cheap SSDs are the 128GB models.

If you're mad you could reprogram TLC NAND to work like MLC and get a 250GB SSD work like a 125GB one, just saying

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you're mad you could reprogram TLC NAND to work like MLC and get a 250GB SSD work like a 125GB one, just saying

Is there any ssd that lets you switch like this? And wouldn't going tlc to mlc get you around 160gb max

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Is there any ssd that lets you switch like this?

I heard about it in some Chinese forums, seems to need a specific programmer for some SMI controller.

 

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

get you around 160gb max

Yup, but I'd leave more room as unpartitioned space since StoreMI cant use more.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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