Ryzen 3600 - which memory to choose?

[Claptrap]

Hey LTT gang,

 

I come to you again for help on my current gaming rig build.

 

I am having a hard time deciding on which memory to purchase.

 

Specs thus far that will/may impact my choice of memory:

• ASRock x470 Mobo - ability to run DDR4 3200 memory without OC
• Ryzen 3600
• Windows 10
• Linux (not sure which flavor yet...I have lots of experience with Ubuntu and Mint, but may want to try something else)
• Virtualbox (in Linux) running Windows 7
• Geforce 1070 (though this will change once I see where RTX goes or price drops enough for me to pull the trigger on something better than the 1070)
• Will be using M.2 Gen3 for Windows and M.2 Gen2 for Linux
• I typically build machines that last me 6-10 years with some hardware upgrades along the way.  I haven't been that into OCing in the past, and do not plan to do it in the near future.  Though I like the option if I want to push the life of my rig.

 

I've seen a number of videos testing different timings, speeds, etc.

But I'm having a hard time determining what combination of options is best for the Ryzen 3600.

 

 

I've been looking at G.Skill 3200 CL16 with 2x16GB modules.
Not locked into G.Skill...I had good success with it in a number of builds.  But then I've had good success with 5-6 brands over the decades.

 

 

Questions:

1. Best memory setup for the Ryzen 3600?
2. DDR4 3200 is my current choice for non-OC.  Any other speeds I should look at if I'm not planning to OC?
3. Will a lower CL have a significant impact for gaming?
4. Is there really any negative impact for Ryzen 3600 by using 4 modules instead of 2?
5. I'm looking at 32GB as my minimum, but I am also considering 64GB.  I can't think of any reason more would bad except for cost...any reason you all can think of?
6. Is there anything to the single vs dual rank, and how can I distinguish this on Newegg (assuming that there is a way beyond going to the manufacturers page to get the specific model number)?
7. Is there memory that is truly "designed for Ryzen" or is that a topic for @LinusTech to address in an episode of $h!t Manufacturers Say?

 

 

As always, thank you for your help!

 

[SpookyCitrus]

What games are you planning on playing? Seems a bit overkill for a linux/windows 7 build.

[Stormseeker9]

3200mhz cl16 is fine, and most commonly used I’d say. 

[Claptrap]

45 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

What games are you planning on playing? Seems a bit overkill for a linux/windows 7 build.

It'll be Windows 10 on one M.2 SSD.  On a separate M.2 SSD it will be Linux and I'll run a Virtualbox with Win7 as well.

 

I play a wide variety of games ranging from your basic pixel graphics indie game to the latest and greatest AAA games like the Tomb Raider, Borderlands, Batman, Skyrim, Fallout, Middle-earth, etc. franchises.  I like everything from platformer to RPG to FPS to whatever.  I play some competitive games like CSGO.

[SpookyCitrus]

58 minutes ago, Claptrap said:

It'll be Windows 10 on one M.2 SSD.  On a separate M.2 SSD it will be Linux and I'll run a Virtualbox with Win7 as well.

 

I play a wide variety of games ranging from your basic pixel graphics indie game to the latest and greatest AAA games like the Tomb Raider, Borderlands, Batman, Skyrim, Fallout, Middle-earth, etc. franchises.  I like everything from platformer to RPG to FPS to whatever.  I play some competitive games like CSGO.

Ohhh haha, from the post it sounded like it was going to be just a linux install with a virtual machine of Windows 7.

A standard kit of 3200mhz CL16 from a reputable manufacturer would be more than fine. I've used the G.skill Trident Z kit as well as the Corsair LPX kit in a few different Ryzen computers so far and no issues with the kits besides Amazon sending me wood in a fake corsair ram box TWICE lmao so just be careful.

[Claptrap]

20 hours ago, Claptrap said:

Questions:

1. _{Best memory setup for the Ryzen 3600?}
2. _{DDR4 3200 is my current choice for non-OC.  Any other speeds I should look at if I'm not planning to OC?}
3. _{Will a lower CL have a significant impact for gaming?}
4. Is there really any negative impact for Ryzen 3600 by using 4 modules instead of 2?
5. _{I'm looking at 32GB as my minimum, but I am also considering 64GB.  I can't think of any reason more would bad except for cost...any reason you all can think of?}
6. Is there anything to the single vs dual rank, and how can I distinguish this on Newegg (assuming that there is a way beyond going to the manufacturers page to get the specific model number)?
7. Is there memory that is truly "designed for Ryzen" or is that a topic for @LinusTech to address in an episode of $h!t Manufacturers Say?

 

Any thoughts specifically on these questions or is the consensus that none of it matters?

 

I'm probably most concerned with 4, 6 and 7.

 

 

[Claptrap]

It sounds like memory with the Samsung B-die chips is the sweet spot.

 

How can you tell if the memory is Samsung B-die or if it is single/dual rank?

 

These sites appear to have done the research:

 

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/die-ultimative-hardwareluxx-samsung-8gb-b-die-liste-alle-hersteller-25-10-19-a-1161530.html

(In German and English)

 

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

 

 

 

Lot of info in his vid as well as his links in the description:

 

DDR4 Memory Scaling on AMD AM4 Platform – The Best Memory Kit For AMD Ryzen CPUs
Read more at https://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/6

 

 

AMD Ryzen – Single-Rank Versus Dual-Rank DDR4 Memory Performance
Read more at https://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-single-rank-versus-dual-rank-ddr4-memory-performance_192960/5

 

 

[Harry Voyager]

If you don't care about RGB try to look for the plain versions of the types with then timings you want; they are typically cheaper if you can find them.

[Claptrap]

21 hours ago, Harry Voyager said:

If you don't care about RGB try to look for the plain versions of the types with then timings you want; they are typically cheaper if you can find them.

Yeah for sure.  This rig is not going for anything fancy...just cool, quiet, powerful, and unobtrusive.

 

In my youth when LAN parties and all night Quake or Unreal marathon matches occupied our weekends, cartridge-based CPUs were amazing (@LinusTech make a vid please), and Winamp really whipped the llama's ass, we would mod the lighting kits sold at autoparts stores and wire them into the PSU.  Amazing how far lighting tech has come.  I still enjoy the heck out of seeing people's builds.  

 

I'd like to build something crazy again...maybe I'll use the hardware from the rig I'm replacing to do something...fun...

 

But for this one, I'll for sure be saving the money and going for the best price for the lowest timings, most amount of memory, and B-die chips (assuming they really make and difference at all).