Told not to OC my 3600X. Why?

[Thready]

I just bought a 3600X and I was told not to OC it because of the PBO. I'm not too familiar with precision boost overdrive. I currently have a 6600k with a slight OC on it from a few years ago and that's the CPU I'm upgrading from.

 

Is there a reason why someone would tell me not to OC my 3600X? Is it more effort than it's worth? Is it unstable? I'm so confused as to why an enthusiast would tell me this. 

[Skiiwee29]

There is no advantage gained in overclocking a Ryzen 3000 chip over letting Precision boost do its thing. Many times you will actually decrease performance. ALso, there is little to no real headroom with Ryzen 3000 for overclocking. For instance, my Ryzen 3700x has an all core boost in testing to about 4075mhz when running say Cinebench test and up to 4.4ghz single core. The best I could manually overclock my chip to was 4.2ghz all core and I actually lost performance in some and gained in others. Its just generally advised to just let AMD PBO do its thing because in the long term, its the best in performance compared. 

[Thready]

Just now, Skiiwee29 said:

There is no advantage gained in overclocking a Ryzen 3000 chip over letting Precision boost do its thing. Many times you will actually decrease performance. ALso, there is little to no real headroom with Ryzen 3000 for overclocking. For instance, my Ryzen 3700x has an all core boost in testing to about 4075mhz when running say Cinebench test and up to 4.4ghz single core. The best I could manually overclock my chip to was 4.2ghz all core and I actually lost performance in some and gained in others. Its just generally advised to just let AMD PBO do its thing because in the long term, its the best in performance compared. 

Ah yes. When I heard that these things have large boost speeds I wondered if overclocking would even matter. What about overclocking my RAM though? I have 3200 Hz RAM at CAS 16.

[Bacon soup]

you might want to read about what PBO is https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/08/13/understanding-precision-boost-overdrive-in-three-easy-steps

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, Thready said:

Ah yes. When I heard that these things have large boost speeds I wondered if overclocking would even matter. What about overclocking my RAM though? I have 3200 Hz RAM at CAS 16.

RAM overclocking is necessary. Enabling DOCP/XMP is a needed thing to get the most out of your CPU. 3600mhz is the sweet spot for Rzyen 3000 and not all boards/chips can hit it from what ive seen and read over the past few months, but may be worth trying for. I have my gskill flareX 14-14-14-32 3200mhz kit overclocked to 16-16-16-48 3600mhz no problems myself. 

[Thready]

9 minutes ago, Bacon soup said:

you might want to read about what PBO is https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/08/13/understanding-precision-boost-overdrive-in-three-easy-steps

This is a great explanation of it. Thanks man

[Thready]

8 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

RAM overclocking is necessary. Enabling DOCP/XMP is a needed thing to get the most out of your CPU. 3600mhz is the sweet spot for Rzyen 3000 and not all boards/chips can hit it from what ive seen and read over the past few months, but may be worth trying for. I have my gskill flareX 14-14-14-32 3200mhz kit overclocked to 16-16-16-48 3600mhz no problems myself. 

How did you check stability? Memtest? And did you increase it little by little each time?

[Skiiwee29]

2 minutes ago, Thready said:

How did you check stability? Memtest? And did you increase it little by little each time?

Yea, Memtest is a great way, or running Aida64 with full Memory testing in it as well.