trouble shooting ... bad graphics card?

[Vance44]

ok so i was playing some day of defeat and talking to some other player's trying to get and idea of what my problem could be 

 

i have a 4k with 60 refresh rate  when i play through display port it plays really smooth and goes in and out of playing smooth and choppy

the picture quality stays the same but when you pan panning can be really chopping 

when i plug an HDMI cable in i dont have as much problem with it 

 

one guy thought maybe i had a bad cable so i tried more the one display port cable still doing it 

few people suggested i may have a bad graphics card ... or at least the ports in the card are bad .... but what are the odds that every single port in the card is bad or has bad connection?

the other is maybe my screen/monitor just isnt high enough refresh rate to keep up? 

 

let me know  ... thinking about trying monitor with high refresh? 

[nextg3n]

some actuall specs would not hurt 

 

[Vance44]

under a year old 

 

 

System

• CPU
  into i7-8700
• Motherboard
  asrock B36m IB-R/socket lga 1151
• RAM
  ddr4 32gb 2666
• GPU
  nividia rtx 2070
• Case
  ibuypower
• Storage
  1tb ssd
• Display(s)
  hp 27es hd 1080p /lg 4k
• Cooling
  corsair h115i pro liquid
• Operating System
  win 10

[homeap5]

Probably your GPU is not that good as you think and 4k @60Hz is too much for it (probably for most of GPUs). Every drop below 60fps may gives you stuttering (what kind of vertical sync do you have enabled? Adaptive / on / off / fast sync?).

[Razer06]

Im gonna guess that the monitor or card is bad. A RTX 2070 shouldnt be lagging on a game from 16 years ago

[homeap5]

1 minute ago, Razer06 said:

Im gonna guess that the monitor or card is bad. A RTX 2070 shouldnt be lagging on a game from 16 years ago

That may be right except for Fast Sync settings. It can give very strange effects.

[Vance44]

1 minute ago, homeap5 said:

Probably your GPU is not that good as you think and 4k @60Hz is too much for it (probably for most of GPUs). Every drop below 60fps may gives you stuttering (what kind of vertical sync do you have enabled? Adaptive / on / off / fast sync?).

no i'm sorry .. i'm not gaming in 4k ... 4k 60hz is just the  monitor i have .. thats the refresh and res of the monitor i'm not trying to game any higher then 1440 and 1080

even at the lower res i still run in to this issue?    even with a 60hz monitor i shouldnt' be having this problem right? 

[Razer06]

1 minute ago, homeap5 said:

That may be right except for Fast Sync settings. It can give very strange effects.

Huh. odd.

[nextg3n]

eeem what game? 

 

[Vance44]

2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

That may be right except for Fast Sync settings. It can give very strange effects.

 

2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

That may be right except for Fast Sync settings. It can give very strange effects.

i dont use free sync

 

[Princess Luna]

This sounds weird enough... honestly you should have gone 1440p high refresh but that aside I agree with @homeap5 on specifying if you're using V-Sync or a Framerate capper or if your display has any adaptive sync functionality.

 

When you say it feels "choppy" but image quality is the same one can only imagine it might be running at a low fps but the information provided is vague...

[Vance44]

Just now, nextg3n said:

eeem what game? 

 

day of defeat 

 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Vance44 said:

day of defeat

That's a 2003 game... if you're playing the vanilla old one it might simply be having compatibility issues when you try running it at 4K since the game is from long before 4K was ever a thing.

[nextg3n]

id rather blame windows for those issues, older game issues basically.... compability to win xp sp2 was the usual go to back in that day... 

[Razer06]

Just now, Vance44 said:

no i'm sorry .. i'm not gaming in 4k ... 4k 60hz is just the  monitor i have .. thats the refresh and res of the monitor i'm not trying to game any higher then 1440 and 1080

even at the lower res i still run in to this issue?    even with a 60hz monitor i shouldnt' be having this problem right? 

Yes. It sounds like Fast sync is screwing with your system, also you say its "Choppy" does that mean low fps

[Vance44]

Just now, nextg3n said:

id rather blame windows for those issues, older game issues basically.... compability to win xp sp2 was the usual go to back in that day... 

i dose it on cs go as well 

 

[LauriHimself]

1 minute ago, Vance44 said:

even with a 60hz monitor i shouldnt' be having this problem right?

that entirely depends on if your framerate matches the Hz of your monitor.

i am not entirely sure what the problem is you are expiriencing, but i guess you are talking about TEARING.

so every time you hit 60FPS (or 30, 120, etc...) there should be no tearing

when you do not match the Hz it gets "CHOPPY"

 

thats what it sounds like to me anyway

[Vance44]

Just now, Razer06 said:

Yes. It sounds like Fast sync is screwing with your system, also you say its "Choppy" does that mean low fps

not really low fps just when i pan it studders 

well fast sync how do i turn it off ? 

free sync on the monitor is off 

 

[LauriHimself]

5 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

free sync on the monitor is off

have you tried to enable it? is your monitor g-sync compatible?

 

 

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

well fast sync how do i turn it off ? 

FastSync is something you have to manually turn on at nVidia control panel, if you never touched it is likely it's not on.

 

4 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

free sync on the monitor is off 

If you have FreeSync and a DisplayPort cable *you should* use it actually, that along side V-Sync should eliminate stuttering.

[Razer06]

3 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

have you tried to enable it? 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

not really low fps just when i pan it studders 

well fast sync how do i turn it off ? 

free sync on the monitor is off 

 

Turn freesync on, it will make your game less choppy.

[Vance44]

15 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

that entirely depends on if your framerate matches the Hz of your monitor.

i am not entirely sure what the problem is you are expiriencing, but i guess you are talking about TEARING.

so every time you hit 60FPS (or 30, 120, etc...) there should be no tearing

when you do not match the Hz it gets "CHOPPY"

 

thats what it sounds like to me anyway

yes and now im keeping track of the fps in game play its staying over 100 

it dont look like its tearing it just seems like when you pay 2 fast or turn around fast its choppy/laggy ?  it studders 

 

[Vance44]

15 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

have you tried to enable it? is your monitor g-sync compatible?

 

 

it has free synce ... maybe turn the snyc off in the game? 

 

[Vance44]

12 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

FastSync is something you have to manually turn on at nVidia control panel, if you never touched it is likely it's not on.

 

If you have FreeSync and a DisplayPort cable *you should* use it actually, that along side V-Sync should eliminate stuttering.

ok maybe try turning the sync option in the game off 

then try it with it all on?

 

i never use free snyc its all off 

but when i did have it on it didnt seem to help any? 

 

[Vance44]

12 minutes ago, Razer06 said:

 

Turn freesync on, it will make your game less choppy.

i have tried it before didnt seem to do much i'll try tho