[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[LukeSavenije]

3 hours ago, genexis_x said:

Is 'Japanese caps better than Chinese/Taiwanese caps' still a thing?

yes.. no... kinda...

 

the japcap trend was because of the so-called "capacitor plague", which is already a debate on what caused it. But the main thing with Japanese caps is that it's more expensive to integrate since most PSU ODMs are in China and will have to import and store a big quantity of them, which because of them having to be under specific conditions, is really expensive. So you won't really see someone use cheap capacitors for that

 

but that doesn't say that Chinese/Taiwanese/German/US companies can't make as good, if not better capacitors than Japanese and a lot of Japanese companies also have Chinese factories.

 

and of course, you always have a few claiming they have "100% Japanese capacitors" and when you open them most of it is still Chinese

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

but that doesn't say that Chinese/Taiwanese/German/US companies can't make as good, if not better capacitors than Japanese and a lot of Japanese companies also have Chinese factories.

does that means PSUs at higher tier in the list have good caps in general, even though some of them don't have Japanese caps?

[LukeSavenije]

27 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

does that means PSUs at higher tier in the list have good caps in general, even though some of them don't have Japanese caps?

correct

[Vordhosbn]

Where would a Corsair RM 750 2019 (not x, not i) fall within this tier list? I can't seem to find it.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Vordhosbn said:

Where would a Corsair RM 750 2019 (not x, not i) fall within this tier list? I can't seem to find it.

That's because it's on the list as "RM Gray".

 

[Vordhosbn]

17 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

That's because it's on the list as "RM Gray".

 

Ohhh, I see. My bad.

[genexis_x]

10 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

correct

thanks for the clarification

[Super]

Hey I currently have a EVGA 750 G3 and have a Gigabyte 3080 Aorus Xtreme coming into the mail (3 8pin, they recommend 850W). My CPU is the 3950x, x570. Could I get away with the 750W? I heard the 30 series have some high transient spikes so I'm not sure if the G3 could handle it, with the reported OPP issues (I read somewhere). So I'm thinking of upgrading to a 1000W power supply. Is the Seasonic GX 1000W Gold 80+ unit good for the 3080? I can't find any reviews online and Seasonic also had a back record of OCP issues regarding the transient spikes for the Ampere and Vega GPUs, which makes me wary and not sure if this particular unit is affected. Another option that is instock is the Super Flower Leadex V Gold PRO 1000W, but it came out only a few months ago and has no reviews. Which one is better or should I keep the 750w G3? Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks! 

 

[hotto96]

Hello guys, i got a Kolink enclave 600w.

 

It's only 5 month old but I changed my system. I got a 5900x and a 6800(non xt)

 

Is this psu enough to run it?

 

If not, what can I buy?

Max budget would be 130€.

 

Thanks in advance

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

36 minutes ago, hotto96 said:

Hello guys, i got a Kolink enclave 600w.

 

It's only 5 month old but I changed my system. I got a 5900x and a 6800(non xt)

 

Is this psu enough to run it?

 

If not, what can I buy?

Max budget would be 130€.

 

Thanks in advance

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[Fnige]

hey @LukeSavenije are we able to get another PCPP filter thingy for SFX/SFX-L Power supplies?

[BiG StroOnZ]

 

[BTGbullseye]

@LukeSavenije Point of reference for the list:

 

<=750W means the same as "less than 751w", not what is very obviously meant as "750w or higher".

https://processing.org/reference/lessthanorequalto.html

 

All instances with that meaning need to be updated to instead be ">=".

Edited January 30, 2021 by BTGbullseye
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[seon123]

21 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Point of reference:

 

<=750W means the same as "less than 751w", not what is very obviously meant as "750w or higher".

https://processing.org/reference/lessthanorequalto.html

 

All instances with that meaning need to be updated to instead be ">=".

When is it used for "750W or higher" here...?

[MrBrightSyde]

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

Point of reference:

 

<=750W means the same as "less than 751w", not what is very obviously meant as "750w or higher".

https://processing.org/reference/lessthanorequalto.html

 

All instances with that meaning need to be updated to instead be ">=".

..wait, are you talking about my reply to Mark Kaine about the Platimax D.F =>750W being next to the Revolution D.F and how => means "equal to or greater than"? (part in bold being the relevant piece).

 

Mostly since I can't think of any other reason to why you would comment this.

[BTGbullseye]

12 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

..wait, are you talking about my reply to Mark Kaine about the Platimax D.F =>750W being next to the Revolution D.F and how => means "equal to or greater than"? (part in bold being the relevant piece).

 

Mostly since I can't think of any other reason to why you would comment this.

No, I'm talking about in the actual list. The listings show the wrong symbolism next to wattages. Sorry for the confusion.

[MrBrightSyde]

36 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

No, I'm talking about in the actual list. The listings show the wrong symbolism next to wattages. Sorry for the confusion.

It's all good. So you are talking about how the => should be >= instead? Since <= is correct for all the model that have it.

[BTGbullseye]

16 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

It's all good. So you are talking about how the => should be >= instead?

Yes.

16 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Since <= is correct for all the model that have it.

Not for the Rosewill Capstone G... The wattage rating indicators are the opposite of what they should be for both the >749W (greater than 749W) and <750W (less than 750W) units.

[MrBrightSyde]

35 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Not for the Rosewill Capstone G... The wattage rating indicators are the opposite of what they should be for both the >749W (greater than 749W) and <750W (less than 750W) units.

No, they're correct? 750w and lesser (<=) are Tier A, 850w and higher (=>) are Tier B. Don't remember exactly why, I just know that they use different platforms, like Rosewill did with the ARC

[BTGbullseye]

2 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

No, they're correct? 750w and lesser (<=) are Tier A, 850w and higher (=>) are Tier B. Don't remember exactly why, I just know that they use different platforms, like Rosewill did with the ARC

So it changed between the previous version of the PSU Tier List and this one?

[Pc6777]

any info on DeepCool DQ650-M-V2L? there's also a 750 and 850 watt model. its in tier c but in the lack of info category. 

[Speedburger]

Do the Seasonic Focus GX and GM perform the same? Is full modular vs semi-modular the only difference?

[lazytoname]

Hello,

I am going to buy a MWE V2 Bronze 650 and see this note

Cooler Master MWE V2 units have high ripple issues on very low load also resulting in increased coil whine, fix pending.

Is this something to worry about in long term? Will this have any significant impact to my computer?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

[Ankerson]

15 hours ago, lazytoname said:

Hello,

I am going to buy a MWE V2 Bronze 650 and see this note

Cooler Master MWE V2 units have high ripple issues on very low load also resulting in increased coil whine, fix pending.

Is this something to worry about in long term? Will this have any significant impact to my computer?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, the higher the ripple the worse it is for the parts of the PC. WILL case parts to fail sooner than they normally would.

 

And low load is were PCs normally are so that's not good.

[LukeSavenije]

18 hours ago, lazytoname said:

I am going to buy a MWE V2 Bronze 650 and see this note

current batch has this issue fixed, so it's not an issue