[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[MrBrightSyde]

54 minutes ago, Sapphiree said:

Nobody knowledgeable buys 750W psu for 3090 when system with this card can easily draw 1300-1400W in peaks. And it's not even on HEDT platform, only with overclocked 10900K. So what are you even talking about lol...

Thanks for missing the point entirely lol....and the only reason I said 750w is because that's the only one that is confirmed. I don't know if the higher wattage models trip too, like the 1000w for 3090. And if you want to argue, at least argue about stock clocks (which is where Nvidia gets it's PSU recommended wattage from) and not an overclocked card.

[Sapphiree]

39 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

and the only reason I said 750w is because that's the only one that is confirmed.

Again, the 750W power supply is not suitable for the strong platforms with 3090, turning the platform off is not surprising in this case and is not an argument, it's not the fault of the psu, it's the fault of ignorance.

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, Sapphiree said:

Nobody knowledgeable buys 750W psu for 3090 when system with this card can easily draw 1300-1400W in peaks. And it's not even on HEDT platform, only with overclocked 10900K. So what are you even talking about lol...

I think they had some probing/emi errors there... or some really cheap measuring tools

[Sapphiree]

6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I think they had some probing/emi errors there... or some really cheap measuring tools

You know what is peak? And why is it causing the ocp/opp trip?. 750W or less (any psu) paired with such a behemot like 3090 especially with most unlocked models with bios 440W like Strix is asking for problems, no one should be surprised that the platform can be unstable or restarting.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

14 minutes ago, Sapphiree said:

Again, the 750W power supply is not suitable for the strong platforms with 3090, turning the platform off is not surprising in this case and is not an argument, it's not the fault of the psu, it's the fault of ignorance.

If you are going to cherry pick, then so will I.

 

A system with a 3090 and a 5600X would be a reasonable configuration. One that would run just fine on a high quality 750W PSU. But potentially not a Seasonic Focus 750W from prior to 2018.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Sapphiree said:

You know what is peak? And why is it causing the ocp/opp trip?. 750W or less with any psu paired with such a behemot like 3090 is asking for problems, no one should be surprised that the platform can be unstable or restarting.

I'm waiting on certain people to get their hands on the cards to do some testing, I've already seen enough errors from fcpowerup and people that just have either too slow or too flawed tools

 

and fyi... it might not even be ocp/opp, it might be uvp

[Sapphiree]

14 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'm waiting on certain people to get their hands on the cards to do some testing, I've already seen enough errors from fcpowerup and people that just have either too slow or too flawed tools

 

and fyi... it might not even be ocp/opp, it might be uvp

So you still think any 750W psu is perfectly suitable for 3090?...ok, eot for me then xD, someone who is author of tier list like that and reccomends psu for different people should know what is peak and what amounts of power these cards can really draw with ez.

[Ankerson]

3 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'm waiting on certain people to get their hands on the cards to do some testing, I've already seen enough errors from fcpowerup and people that just have either too slow or too flawed tools

 

and fyi... it might not even be ocp/opp, it might be uvp

 

Some of it's driver/software related, the drivers are still buggy. Black screens and other assorted issues.

 

So depending on the machine and what they are doing people could see reboots.

 

Not the complete shut downs as some are getting due to the transient power spikes were the PSU just shuts off.

 

Saw a few reboots myself when testing my newest one, 3rd card, 1st two were RMAed.

 

But that's ocing the piss out of it and stressing it for all I can get out of it. Had to reload the drivers a few times as they do get corrupted with all the crashing during testing. This was over the past couple of days.

 

 

[Ankerson]

5 hours ago, Sapphiree said:

So you still think any 750W psu is perfectly suitable for 3090?...ok, eot for me then xD, someone who is author of tier list like that and reccomends psu for different people should know what is peak and what amounts of power these cards can really draw with ez.

 

They do pull a lot of power, and I do mean a lot, especially the 3x 8 Pin cards.

 

I know mine, 3080 FTW3 Ultra with the 450W XOC VBIOS can pull 470W just from the 3X 8 Pin alone, that's not from the wall, that's from the PSU to the card.

 

And that's not even overclocked.

 

And I have a screen shot of that being reported by my PSU that breaks it down by a direct hardware link per connection in Amps.

 

But that's not getting into the Power spikes of 976W for 20ms that needs the proper equipment to see.

 

So I would say no, 750W really isn't enough for the 3X 8 Pin 3080 or 3090.

 

And yes I actually do have one, this is my 3rd one now since early Oct, 1st two were RMAed.

 

 

 

[LukeSavenije]

7 hours ago, Sapphiree said:

So you still think any 750W psu is perfectly suitable for 3090?...ok, eot for me then xD, someone who is author of tier list like that and reccomends psu for different people should know what is peak and what amounts of power these cards can really draw with ez.

what I'm saying is that what you're seeing isn't data I trust because of errors in probing, EMI, inaccurate tools or other errors causing these kinds of numbers. There's a bit known about it, but because I need people like Aris and Jon to get their cards for testing to know things for sure, all I'm saying is that there's a lack of ino

[streem]

Hi everyone, can you advise if buying a 2 socket GPU (8+6PIN) makes any sense in case of a single PCI-E 2.0 6+2 (8) pin cable? I'm concerned whether or not I should stick to a single socket GPU models or go ahead with a 6+8 GPU using one cable, which might run into some instability issues as the card pulls up to 240-270W (molex to 6 pin is a scuffed possibility I'm considering too)

 

GPU in question is Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GAMING PRO 8GB OC and my PSU is SilentiumPC Supremo L2 550W 80 Plus Gold

 

 

[Ankerson]

10 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

what I'm saying is that what you're seeing isn't data I trust because of errors in probing, EMI, inaccurate tools or other errors causing these kinds of numbers. There's a bit known about it, but because I need people like Aris and Jon to get their cards for testing to know things for sure, all I'm saying is that there's a lack of ino

 

 

Not Jon or Aris, and will never claim to be, but I can tell you this much for sure.

 

My machine as it sits right now can pull enough wattage to shut down a GOOD quality 750W PSU if I really push the system hard with my 3080 FTW3 Ultra, and I don't have to OC the GPU either. And that is not measured from the wall, that's actual wattage the PSU is supplying to the machine. While my current PSU is sitting nice and comfy at 95% efficiency. If that tells what kind of power it's pulling. I saw spikes up to 800W+.

 

And that's not even getting into the transient power spikes.

 

And this card I have now pulls even more power than my last one did, just ran some tests today to confirm it. 

 

Reason why I posted this.

 

And the 3090 FTW3 Ultra pulls even more power than what I have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[juanme555]

Which one is this?

FUENTE CORSAIR RM750 750 W FULL MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD | Mexx computación

 

Is this the one in Tier A?

[MrBrightSyde]

30 minutes ago, juanme555 said:

Which one is this?

FUENTE CORSAIR RM750 750 W FULL MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD | Mexx computación

 

Is this the one in Tier A?

No, that's the Tier C. It's the RM from 2013.

[juanme555]

31 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

No, that's the Tier C. It's the RM from 2013.

Thank you so so much.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, juanme555 said:

Which one is this?

FUENTE CORSAIR RM750 750 W FULL MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD | Mexx computación

 

Is this the one in Tier A?

There's in NO WAY they still have that in stock.  Is it used?  Maybe the store didn't update their photo gallery.  Can you get the Corsair "CP" part number from them?  I can't find that ANYWHERE on that product listing.

 

[Onyxian]

The SilverStone SX1000 SFX-L is up on Amazon. Just ordered one as I was having a hell of a time getting an SF750. Hope it ends up being a good one.

 

Edit: Oh. It's a "SST-SX1000-LPT" and the SX-LPT is in the D tier

[genexis_x]

Super Flower Computer Inc. - Computer case, Power supply (super-flower.com.tw)
this is which tier?

[doubleflower]

5 hours ago, genexis_x said:

Super Flower Computer Inc. - Computer case, Power supply (super-flower.com.tw)
this is which tier?

Is this unit available here in Malaysia?  Judging from the specs this looks like a Tier B/C+ PSU for me

Teardown pics? 

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-legion-hx-sf-750p14xe-750w/p/1HU-024C-00033

 

@Juular

[Juular]

8 hours ago, Onyxian said:

Edit: Oh. It's a "SST-SX1000-LPT" and the SX-LPT is in the D tier

SX-LPT 700W is in tier D, we don't have any info on SX-LPT 1000W.

6 hours ago, genexis_x said:

Super Flower Computer Inc. - Computer case, Power supply (super-flower.com.tw)
this is which tier?

Looks like a reincarnation of Golden Green / King with OTP, but i can't get any info about their 'H.L.B.' bearing, so it's tier B low priority.

[Onyxian]

5 hours ago, Juular said:

SX-LPT 700W is in tier D, we don't have any info on SX-LPT 1000W.

Well if I happen to get it before any one has info I'd be happy to take some pictures if that would help.

[Guest]

23 hours ago, juanme555 said:

Which one is this?

FUENTE CORSAIR RM750 750 W FULL MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD | Mexx computación

 

Is this the one in Tier A?

It's actually the one in Tier A.  I asked someone to reach out to that reseller and they said that they're using the old photos.

[Juular]

3 hours ago, Onyxian said:

Well if I happen to get it before any one has info I'd be happy to take some pictures if that would help.

We've seen it's internals, Silverstone showed some nudes on the product page. But this is a new Enhance LLC resonant, DC-DC platform without any reviews on it.

[Zantomaku]

Hi I'm having some concerns about my brand new Corsair RM850X:

 

 

As you can see 12v, 5v, 3v are a bit lower than they should. Biggest concern is 12v. It goes as low as to 11.884 in CyberPunk 2077. I dont even have a high end GPU. I use RTX 2060 Super + 5900x. Nothing is overclocking. I'm scared that 3080 is gonna lower it even more. Is there any reason for concern?

[seon123]

16 minutes ago, Zantomaku said:

Hi I'm having some concerns about my brand new Corsair RM850X:

 

 

As you can see 12v, 5v, 3v are a bit lower than they should. Biggest concern is 12v. It goes as low as to 11.884 in CyberPunk 2077. I dont even have a high end GPU. I use RTX 2060 Super + 5900x. Nothing is overclocking. I'm scared that 3080 is gonna lower it even more. Is there any reason for concern?

The software voltage readings are useless. Just ignore them. The ATX spec is also +-5% for the 3.3V, 5V and 12V rails.