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Been doing some research and am still reading through the pages here but my PSU is dying (at a very bad time) and am looking for a new one and have found the following available, wondering which one is best for the price.. 

 

Looks like a platinum vs gold will save me $7 per year. I'm running a i7-6700k and a GTX 960.

 

CORSAIR RMX Series, RM750x - $117.84

Seasonic Focus PX-750 SSR-750PX - $137.05

Seasonic Focus GX-750 SSR-750FX - $119.99

Seasonic Focus GX-550 SSR-550FX - $99.99

 

I noticed that the Seasonic PSU's are newer, wondering how they compare to the CORSAIR. One thing for me is that I have had a Corsair PSU fail on me before and now I am having my XFX (Seasonic re-brand) start failing on me as well so it is a toss up of which brand I should go with especially with the current prices I want to get one that I can use for future builds. Any advice would be great.

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8 hours ago, MrBrightSyde said:

What's the source for the Prestige being B Tier? Just curious since I see the 600w for $50 and the 800w for $65. Might buy one to replace the Ultra PSU in my old FX-8320/1060 6GB build.

Well, it's not solid grounds (hence it's grayed-out) but from the shot of back grille it's apparent that they use Andyson as OEM, it's very close to platform of Xigmatek Cerberus S / Aerocool KCAS Gold, and Xigmatek does claim that this model has DC-DC. It should be okay as very budget option.

4 hours ago, the_hateful_one said:

Why are Seasonic Core GC / GM / GX grayed out in tier B+?

Reviews we have so far aren't very trustful, that's the reason. So if we get some more reviews or at least one review from Aris we'll ungray it. It looks good so far though as it's really just a cost-down Focus, good option if it's cheap enough.

1 hour ago, Undisclosed said:

One thing for me is that I have had a Corsair PSU fail on me before and now I am having my XFX (Seasonic re-brand) start failing on me as well so it is a toss up of which brand I should go with

Failures happen with any brand, it's all about how they handle the warranty, and in this regard i'd say Corsair and Seasonic are pretty much on par.

As of Corsair RMx vs Seasonic Focus, i wouldn't say there's performance difference significant enough to warrant going for one or another, just get a cheapest option. I.e Focus GX 550W, wattage should be enough for any gaming build but the most extreme ones, but if you plan to upgrade to smth like i9 9900K/10900K + RTX2080Ti/3080Ti then i'd suggest going for RMx 750W then to have some more headroom.

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19 minutes ago, Juular said:

Failures happen with any brand, it's all about how they handle the warranty, and in this regard i'd say Corsair and Seasonic are pretty much on par.

As of Corsair RMx vs Seasonic Focus, i wouldn't say there's performance difference significant enough to warrant going for one or another, just get a cheapest option. I.e Focus GX 550W, wattage should be enough for any gaming build but the most extreme ones, but if you plan to upgrade to smth like i9 9900K/10900K + RTX2080Ti/3080Ti then i'd suggest going for RMx 750W then to have some more headroom.

 

Thanks for the insight.

 

Now debating if I should get the CORSAIR RM650x for $104.19, so $4.19 more than the Focus GX-550 but with 100w more. Going to try to read in to figure out the differences and what was changed in the 2020 version of the GX-550.

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Just now, Undisclosed said:

if I should get the CORSAIR RM650x for $104.19, so $4.19 more than the Focus GX-550 but with 100w more.

Hmm ... personally i would. Focus GX has fix for AMD Vega shutdown issues and ribbon cables without capacitors in them, that it.

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Fuck It just was edited yesterday and today I got the

 

Abkoncore Tenergy Bronze which is listed as a B instead of a Kolink Enclave which is listed as a B+

 

Should be ok with my Ryzen 5 3600 / RX 5700 or I have to return it?

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1 minute ago, LordWk said:

Should be ok with my Ryzen 5 3600 / RX 5700 or I have to return it?

It's not very good PSU but it's not a bomb either. Kolink Enclave would be considerably better so it would make sense to swap Tenergy Bronze for it if you can do it.

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Should I get the VS 550 on pre order from Amazon for 39.99£? I plan to power an rx 480/580 and r5 1600.

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@LukeSavenijehow different is the superflower leadex III and the argb leadex from the superflower leadex II?

I have a leadex II and want to ask if leadex III or argb has some improvements over leadex II. 

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23 minutes ago, SuperFlower said:

@LukeSavenijehow different is the superflower leadex III and the argb leadex from the superflower leadex II?

I have a leadex II and want to ask if leadex III or argb has some improvements over leadex II. 

The main difference is that it's quieter. Electrically it isn't much different.

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27 minutes ago, SuperFlower said:

@LukeSavenijehow different is the superflower leadex III and the argb leadex from the superflower leadex II?

I have a leadex II and want to ask if leadex III or argb has some improvements over leadex II. 

compare them like a EVGA G2 and a fixed version of G3, because that's what they essentially are

 

Leadex III is more quiet, especially since the fancurve after the semi-passive mode is less agressive on it. It performs electrically better, and simply is a newer design

 

the only difference between the vanilla Leadex III and the ARGB is the RGB fan used, interally it's the same for the current batches

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4 minutes ago, SuperFlower said:

Quieter? I can't hear the fan of my leadex gold II even with all my pc fans off.

Leadex II isn't loud mind you but isn't very quiet either. Leadex III is much quieter, with passive mode spanning for far wider load range, barely reaching the same fan RPM at full load which Leadex II starts with on 10% load.

 

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Is upgrading the leadex II 650w for a leadex III 650w a smart move for a future build with rtx 3070 or 3080?

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Just now, SuperFlower said:

Is upgrading the leadex II 650w for a leadex III 650w a smart move for a future build with rtx 3070 or 3080?

If you don't hear Leadex II then no, as electrically they're pretty much the same.

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28 minutes ago, SuperFlower said:

Is upgrading the leadex II 650w for a leadex III 650w a smart move for a future build with rtx 3070 or 3080?

The reason is important, why are you upgrading it in the first place? It's similar internally, and the performance is very similar. The only difference is the noise and fixed OCP/OPP issues. Or do you want the bling-bling RGB? I can't argue with that.

 

@jonnyGURU, I have just read the TweakPC DE review and the Cybenetics certification data. Your Vengeance Silver 750 seems to have overload ripple problems. Can you confirm this?

 

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_vengeance_650m_750m/s02.php

ftp://members.cybenetics.report/PDF_Reports/d/cybenetics_DWi.pdf (warning, downloads a PDF)

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6 hours ago, boghubodaghi said:

The reason is important, why are you upgrading it in the first place? It's similar internally, and the performance is very similar. The only difference is the noise and fixed OCP/OPP issues. Or do you want the bling-bling RGB? I can't argue with that.

 

@jonnyGURU, I have just read the TweakPC DE review and the Cybenetics certification data. Your Vengeance Silver 750 seems to have overload ripple problems. Can you confirm this?

 

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_vengeance_650m_750m/s02.php

ftp://members.cybenetics.report/PDF_Reports/d/cybenetics_DWi.pdf (warning, downloads a PDF)

What does "overload ripple" mean?

 

You mean the ripple is higher when you push the PSU beyond what it is meant to do?  Yeah.  Most PSUs do that.  That's why you don't buy a 650W PSU for a 750W system.

 

 

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6 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

What does "overload ripple" mean?

 

You mean the ripple is higher when you push the PSU beyond what it is meant to do?  Yeah.  Most PSUs do that.  That's why you don't buy a 650W PSU for a 750W system.

Actually, this tier list accounts ripple at 110% overload, and many PSUs, including the 650 W Vengeance Silver does not have this behaviour. FYI I have checked almost a hundred Cybenetics/Aris_Mp reviews, most PSUs does not have this behaviour. 

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14 minutes ago, boghubodaghi said:

Actually, this tier list accounts ripple at 110% overload, and many PSUs, including the 650 W Vengeance Silver does not have this behaviour. FYI I have checked almost a hundred Cybenetics/Aris_Mp reviews, most PSUs does not have this behaviour. 

Thank you for your concern.

 

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46 minutes ago, boghubodaghi said:

Actually, this tier list accounts ripple at 110% overload, and many PSUs, including the 650 W Vengeance Silver does not have this behaviour. FYI I have checked almost a hundred Cybenetics/Aris_Mp reviews, most PSUs does not have this behaviour. 

Well.. I think we all know how I feel about the tier list.

 

If the PSU is overloaded to 110%, which is what the peak rating for any decent PSU is rated at, and the ripple is still withing ATX specification, I think we're ok.

Again, if you're using a 650W PSU for a 750W build, that's not the PSU manufacturer's concern.

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@JuularHave few questions about these damned Focus based power supplies :D Somehow all PSUs i found that are half way decent turn out to be based on same problematic Focus platform: ASUS Rog Strix, Antec Earthwatts Pro Gold and Seasonic Core GC/GM (650w models). So here are my questions:

 

1. Antec PSU is marked gold in B+ tier for pre 2020 models...is it then confirmed that they don't suffer from GPU shutdown problems? Also are these models branded as "EAW" in spreadsheet document? There is also "EA" pro gold model in spreadsheet, so it is a bit confusing as the actual model name is EA650G PRO.

 

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2. As there is a high chance both ASUS and Antec are pre 2020 models, what would you advice me to buy from mentioned PSUs? Should i stick to Seasonic, or maybe try some other brand? The only options from higher tiers are FSP Hydro GE, Thermaltake Toughpower Grand /DPS G and Cooler Master MWE Gold. 

 

I will use RX 580 Nitro+ with Ryzen 2600 or 3600. I know it's not a problematic GPU, but if i upgrade with beefier card in the future i would not like to experience any problems...

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9 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

problematic Focus platform: ASUS Rog Strix, Antec Earthwatts Pro Gold and Seasonic Core GC/GM (650w models).

Seasonic Core isn't exactly Focus tho but we don't have any data on it's compatibility with Vega yet.

10 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

Antec PSU is marked gold in B+ tier for pre 2020 models...is it then confirmed that they don't suffer from GPU shutdown problems?

It's rather that there were no accounts of such problems yet but since it's 8 months already i think it's safe to say that it's confirmed.

11 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

Also are these models branded as "EAW" in spreadsheet document? There is also "EA" pro gold model in spreadsheet, so it is a bit confusing as the actual model name is EA650G PRO.

We'll address this in the next revision, yes, it's supposed to be the same thing, Antec Earthwatts Gold (EAG) Pro.

12 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

As there is a high chance both ASUS and Antec are pre 2020 models

Depends, you can try to ask a retailed for manufacturing date of the unit.

15 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

Thermaltake Toughpower Grand

This might be interesting, which model exactly ?

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15 minutes ago, Juular said:

Depends, you can try to ask a retailed for manufacturing date of the unit.

I will check of course.

 

I think i fell good enough buying Antec, even the pre 2020 version as i also could not find 1 bad thing about it...reviews are also solid so i think it's a good choice.

 

17 minutes ago, Juular said:

This might be interesting, which model exactly ?

https://www.thermaltake.com/toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-gold-full-modular.html

 

Btw ty for great answers, you are awesome 😁 👍

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32 minutes ago, the_hateful_one said:

I will check of course.

 

I think i fell good enough buying Antec, even the pre 2020 version as i also could not find 1 bad thing about it...reviews are also solid so i think it's a good choice.

 

https://www.thermaltake.com/toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-gold-full-modular.html

 

Btw ty for great answers, you are awesome 😁 👍

It's an OCP configuration issue that is too sensitive to abnormally high current peaks. I think it should be easy to fix, if there's no news on Antec 99% chance it's fixed on the Antec. I am not sure why Seasonic couldn't get this right, it doesn't seem to be complicated either.

 

2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Well.. I think we all know how I feel about the tier list.

 

If the PSU is overloaded to 110%, which is what the peak rating for any decent PSU is rated at, and the ripple is still withing ATX specification, I think we're ok.

Again, if you're using a 650W PSU for a 750W build, that's not the PSU manufacturer's concern.

I know, this list is garbage... But here's the deal, Cybenetics loaded the 3V rail at 9A and 5VSB rail at 2.5A to get it out of ATX specs. I know no sane mind would load a 3.3 or 5VSB rail that much, but it's still within the rated capacity written on the label, maybe you should look into this issue? Because I have not seen this in other modern Corsair PSUs, not even the grey VSes.

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9 minutes ago, boghubodaghi said:

I know, this list is garbage... But here's the deal, Cybenetics loaded the 3V rail at 9A and 5VSB rail at 2.5A to get it out of ATX specs. I know no sane mind would load a 3.3 or 5VSB rail that much, but it's still within the rated capacity written on the label, maybe you should look into this issue? Because I have not seen this in other modern Corsair PSUs, not even the grey VSes.

Yep.

 

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