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PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

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For help choosing a power supply please Create a New Thread asking for assistance including your budget and system hardware to receive the best answers relevant to your specific needs.

1 hour ago, Nozyspy said:

Just how high is the transient power draw on an OC 3080Ti? I'm assuming 1000w would be sufficient for that paired with a 12700k right?

Wrong thread.

 

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12 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Wrong thread.

 

You already replied, you could have used less words and simply said 'yes' or 'no'.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: NVM sorry, i forgot that my question was already answered a few pages before by someone being more helpful. 👍 Looks like its gonna be a Corsair HX1000 for me i guess.

On 12/14/2021 at 3:39 PM, Juular said:

It's not clear, i would advice against buying Seasonic Prime PSUs if you plan to use RTX3080/3090 series GPUs or something high-end from next generations, which would likely be even more transient heavy. But it's not strictly power draw related issue in this case, more of design flaw in Seasonic protection circuit, because most other PSUs work fine, 750W for RTX3080, 850W for RTX3080Ti/3090.

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what about corsair cv 650

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1 hour ago, xaviltt said:

what about corsair cv 650

It's in Tier C.  If you Ctrl + F to find on page "CV" (of tier list front page) it'll take you to where it's listed.  So not advised for a high-end GPU system but okay for a mid/low end GPU or office computer.

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I am looking to buy an Antec High Current Gamer Gold HCG750 as I found it around 80 euros - about 25 euros cheaper then a RMx in my country. In the tier list it states, that one should not buy the Antec model from pre2018. How do I tell, if the linked one is pre2018?

 

Antec | Model-nr.: 0-761345-11638-1

 

https://www.computersalg.dk/i/4162430/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-hcg750-strømforsyning-intern-atx12v-2-4-eps12v-80-plus-gold-ac-100-240-v-750-watt-aktiv-pfc

 

Thank you in advance!

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I sent in my 2080ti for service and was told I had a bad capacitor that they fixed. They are sending it back but I was looking into any power issues my pc that might have caused the damage.

Well, I found old focus psu's have problems from this PSU tier list. I'm looking to buy a replacement or get a replacement from seasonic. I'm looking at the prime 1000 titanium or platinum (is there a big difference?). Do you all happen to have any suggestions? Thanks for any help

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2 hours ago, ShiZo1337 said:

I sent in my 2080ti for service and was told I had a bad capacitor that they fixed. They are sending it back but I was looking into any power issues my pc that might have caused the damage.

Well, I found old focus psu's have problems from this PSU tier list. I'm looking to buy a replacement or get a replacement from seasonic. I'm looking at the prime 1000 titanium or platinum (is there a big difference?). Do you all happen to have any suggestions? Thanks for any help

 

capacitors naturally fail over time, you might just had bad luck and gotten one with really short lifetime. if you're really concerned, just go ahead and upgrade. the main difference between Ti and Pt is really efficiency certification at very low and very high loads. you're splitting hair by the time you get to Ti and Pt level. You can't go wrong with anything from the Seasonic Prime line. What are you running that warrants a 1000W PSU? If you're running stuff that needs 1000W like a 3080 or 3090, I would go even higher just to future proof it

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7 hours ago, ShiZo1337 said:

Well, I found old focus psu's have problems from this PSU tier list. I'm looking to buy a replacement or get a replacement from seasonic. I'm looking at the prime 1000 titanium or platinum (is there a big difference?).

First, these issues wouldn't cause capacitors failure. Second, they were fixed in post 2018 revisions of Seasonic Focus. Third, current revision Seasonic Prime has similar issues, so if anything, replacing your Focus with Prime would just potentially make things worse if you're planning to upgrade the GPU. And lastly, PSU efficiency doesn't really correlate with it's quality and overall performance, there are 80+ Gold PSUs that i'd recommend over some 80+ Platinum/Titanium any day, including Prime PX/TX.

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20 hours ago, Juular said:

First, these issues wouldn't cause capacitors failure. Second, they were fixed in post 2018 revisions of Seasonic Focus. Third, current revision Seasonic Prime has similar issues, so if anything, replacing your Focus with Prime would just potentially make things worse if you're planning to upgrade the GPU. And lastly, PSU efficiency doesn't really correlate with it's quality and overall performance, there are 80+ Gold PSUs that i'd recommend over some 80+ Platinum/Titanium any day, including Prime PX/TX.

What psu would you suggest?

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58 minutes ago, ShiZo1337 said:

What psu would you suggest?

Please create your own thread with budget, country or the list of available online stores and your complete build specs. But overall probably Corsair RM-x or EVGA G6, or if you want something more high-end'ish then Corsair HX.

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10 minutes ago, juanme555 said:

is this PSU truly A tier??? this is extremely cheap in my country. https://exxa.com.ar/productos/17094/

 

 

That's what it says. CWT internals afaik.

 

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Is anyone planning to update this or a different post with the content from cultists? it's the first time I hear about the site and I'm not sure if it's safe, I'm on a proxy but still.

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5 hours ago, juanme555 said:

is this PSU truly A tier??? this is extremely cheap in my country. https://exxa.com.ar/productos/17094/

It kinda is and isn't. Almost the same as Bitfenix Whisper or Enermax Revolution DF but with three important differences.

- DBB fan on some/most batches, so it will rustle at low RPMs

- It doesn't have a semi-passive mode so it would rustle always (the version with DBB fan)

- There's no 12V OCP on GPU connectors, so it's essentially a single-rail unit in that regard, despite being essentially advertised as multi-rail (because of what's on the rails distribution label). I'm torn between detiering it to tier A low priority or just moving to single-rail because of that.

 

But otherwise it's a decent unit for the price it goes for as in everything else it's similar to the models i've mentioned above.

Here's a review :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbyUI-J16BY

 

5 hours ago, Caroline said:

it's the first time I hear about the site and I'm not sure if it's safe, I'm on a proxy but still.

LMAO, what made you believe that it's not exactly ? You afraid of cults ? We're harmless, i swear 😄 (until you say 'Seasonic is the best')

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2 hours ago, Dogzilla07 said:

Now I'm wondering if the 850w and 750w models are more quiet, hm.

The 20AWG wires in PCIe and 103% OPP are more concerning. The increased noise level is to be expected really, given it's super compact design.

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1 hour ago, Dogzilla07 said:

They actually use the word "Molex" on the connectors.  😄 What do you bet they don't actually use Molex brand connectors.  Should someone inform Molex's lawyers?  😄

 

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1 hour ago, Dogzilla07 said:

Finally, a power supply with the proper wiring colour scheme

 

wait

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huh?

 

19 hours ago, Juular said:

LMAO, what made you believe that it's not exactly ? You afraid of cults ? We're harmless, i swear 😄 (until you say 'Seasonic is the best')

Never heard of it before.

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6 hours ago, Dogzilla07 said:

Wow, I was not aware G.Skill had two PSU lines.

They have, or rather had four, actually.

Also, this, from that page :

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Hi,

 

Please help. I might need a new 650W PSU. Wich one should I choose?

Cooler Master V650 Gold V2 - Tier A - Blue - i can get it around 100$

or

Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 650W - Tiear B - Gold - i can get it around 117$

or

CORSAIR CX Series CX650M - Tiear B - Gold - i can get it around 105$

 

Thanks.

 

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5 hours ago, nGabor said:

Hi,

 

Please help. I might need a new 650W PSU. Wich one should I choose?

Cooler Master V650 Gold V2 - Tier A - Blue - i can get it around 100$

or

Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 650W - Tiear B - Gold - i can get it around 117$

or

CORSAIR CX Series CX650M - Tiear B - Gold - i can get it around 105$

 

Thanks.

 

for help choosing a power supply please Create a New Thread asking for assistance including your budget and system hardware to receive the best answers relevant to your specific needs.

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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2 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

for help choosing a power supply please Create a New Thread asking for assistance including your budget and system hardware to receive the best answers relevant to your specific needs.

Ok thanks.

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  • 2 weeks later...

EVGA G1 650W is kind of bad, right, looking at that tier list?  Dangerously bad?   Here's its positioning in the Tier List:

"Tier D - Recommended only for very cheap, iGPU systems" as "EVGA ... G(1) <=750W"

 

But Aris' 2018 review of the 650W version here makes it look reasonably alright, so I'm confused by these mixed signals:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-650-g1-plus-psu,5661.html

 

I have an acquaintance who went with one for his new build that has an i7-12700K in it.  I should tell him to get something better ASAP, or is it fine for now until he gets a good GPU?  He's currently using an older GTX 1070.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Quartz11 said:

I'm confused by these mixed signals

Because you've mixed up models. One is G1 / NEX-G, the other is G1+ / G+. Say thanks to EVGA.

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1 hour ago, Juular said:

Because you've mixed up models. One is G1 / NEX-G, the other is G1+ / G+. Say thanks to EVGA.

OH!  So the review is for the PLUS version.  Ok, I'll tell my acquaintance to chuck his current PSU into a trash bin and run to get another.  It's the non-plus.

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