[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[sabertooth_990fx]

12 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

And does it work?

 

Kind of funny that you're asking ME if something works when YOU have the parts? 

 

I suppose you could try this: Run Prime 95 in the back ground.  Run Furmark in the foreground.  Press the space bar after a few seconds.  Does it shut down?

 

Also, if you have a motherboard that "bottlenecks" your GPU's performance, the problem isn't there. You have to have a setup that fully optimizes the performance of the card.  If you're using an i7 7700K on a Z170X motherboard, you're not going to have a problem because you've dropped a V12 into a Yugo (by today's standards).

My bad, wanted to know how to replicate the problem. I haven't seen any shutdowns during gaming (Gears 5 at 4k) yet, so keeping my fingers crossed.

Thanks for the steps. Motherboard is ASUS X570-E with 3800x.

Will report back with my findings.

[sabertooth_990fx]

14 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

And does it work?

 

Kind of funny that you're asking ME if something works when YOU have the parts? 

 

I suppose you could try this: Run Prime 95 in the back ground.  Run Furmark in the foreground.  Press the space bar after a few seconds.  Does it shut down?

 

Also, if you have a motherboard that "bottlenecks" your GPU's performance, the problem isn't there. You have to have a setup that fully optimizes the performance of the card.  If you're using an i7 7700K on a Z170X motherboard, you're not going to have a problem because you've dropped a V12 into a Yugo (by today's standards).

Final update: Stressing the PSU with Prime 95(in background) and FurMark(in foreground) doesn't trigger shutdown, tried this multiple times.

Thank you once again.

[knownbyfew]

@LukeSavenijeHey, wanted to ask - could you please include Montech PSUs in the tier list and list where each unit/series stands in which category? Thanks.

[Juular]

41 minutes ago, knownbyfew said:

@LukeSavenijeHey, wanted to ask - could you please include Montech PSUs in the tier list and list where each unit/series stands in which category? Thanks.

We already have a bunch there, aren't we ?

[knownbyfew]

2 hours ago, Juular said:

We already have a bunch there, aren't we ?

Oh crap, I found it! I just found their PSUs in the lower end system and didn't see it anywhere, so thought it wasn't included. Sorry.

[itslit]

Why XPG Pylon in ( low priority units - minor issues or lack of info )? Does it have any problem or lack of information?

[Juular]

4 hours ago, itslit said:

Does it have any problem or lack of information?

The latter, there were no reviews at the time, it will be moved to normal priority in the next revision, see changelog.

[doubleflower]

@Juular @LukeSavenije Seems like the TUF Gaming Bronze gets a review from Expreview:

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=https://www.expreview.com/78077.html

 

Looks quite good, quite similar to the CX, so why is this PSU in Tier C? 

[boghubodaghi]

6 minutes ago, doubleflower said:

@Juular @LukeSavenije Seems like the TUF Gaming Bronze gets reviewed:

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=https://www.expreview.com/78077.html

 

Looks quite good, quite similar to the CX, so why this PSU is in Tier C? 

We thought it didn't have LLC, as we didn't know the internals yet so we put it on C. On the next revision it will be on B.

[iCoNrant]

Anybody know that why the cooler Master V750 Gold v2 is in a minor / lack of information? 

 

[screamopilla]

Are there any proper reviews of the Seasonic 12 SIII 650w unit? Only one I can find is for the 500w version which I've read isn't on the same platform or doesn't have the same specs

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[Juular]

10 hours ago, iCoNrant said:

Anybody know that why the cooler Master V750 Gold v2 is in a minor / lack of information?

Because there were no reviews at the time of the revision.

23 minutes ago, screamopilla said:

Are there any proper reviews of the Seasonic 12 SIII 650w unit? Only one I can find is for the 500w version which isn't on the same platform.

All Seasonic S12III are on the same platform.

[iCoNrant]

16 minutes ago, Juular said:

Because there were no reviews at the time of the revision.

Review I just showed, now just wait for the tier list change by the creator

[screamopilla]

31 minutes ago, Juular said:

Because there were no reviews at the time of the revision.

All Seasonic S12III are on the same platform.

Ok thanks, I managed to find a review and some helpful information here (both websites are no longer live):

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20200805074645/http://www.f14lab.com/2019/05/review-seasonic-s12iii-500550650.html
 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LFvQR4gqyQsJ:www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?17879-SeaSonic-S12III-Review-F14-Lab%26goto%3Dnewpost&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en&gl=uk&strip=1&vwsrc=0

 

Currently looking for a budget 650w bronze unit and the Seasonic S12 III 650w is the best price I can get in the UK at £45 delivered. Alternatives are Corsair CV650 (£50 delivered) and Coolermaster MWE V2 Bronze (£50) delivered. I have the XPG Pylon 650w unit on order at £46.50 but the supplier seems to have stock issues and dispatch is delayed so thinking of cancelling getting one of the above instead. I would lean to Seasonic or Coolermaster for their 5 year warranties, vs 3 years for the XPG and Corsair units, but the Seasonic unit seems pretty low on the tier list and apparently lacks some standard protection features like OTP so there's also that

[ForwardVoltage]

44 minutes ago, screamopilla said:

Ok thanks, I managed to find a review and some helpful information here (both websites are no longer live):

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20200805074645/http://www.f14lab.com/2019/05/review-seasonic-s12iii-500550650.html
 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LFvQR4gqyQsJ:www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?17879-SeaSonic-S12III-Review-F14-Lab%26goto%3Dnewpost&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en&gl=uk&strip=1&vwsrc=0

 

Currently looking for a budget 650w bronze unit and the Seasonic S12 III 650w is the best price I can get in the UK at £45 delivered. Alternatives are Corsair CV650 (£50 delivered) and Coolermaster MWE V2 Bronze (£50) delivered. I have the XPG Pylon 650w unit on order at £46.50 but the supplier seems to have stock issues and dispatch is delayed so thinking of cancelling getting one of the above instead. I would lean to Seasonic or Coolermaster for their 5 year warranties, vs 3 years for the XPG and Corsair units, but the Seasonic unit seems pretty low on the tier list and apparently lacks some standard protection features like OTP so there's also that

S12iii -- using an inferior secondary topology to split the 12v into minor rails (quite old), missing OTP, not claiming OCP on any rail, does not have UVP and OVP is "implemented" as the operating limitation of the Grenergy GR8313 supervisor IC...This sounds pretty bleak to me.

In your case, I would take the V2 Bronze / Pylon if you can...I wouldn't overvalue warranty as an excuse to get protection-lottery-city of a unit that is the S12iii.

[screamopilla]

4 minutes ago, ForwardVoltage said:

S12iii -- using an inferior secondary topology to split the 12v into minor rails (quite old), missing OTP, not claiming OCP on any rail, does not have UVP and OVP is "implemented" as the operating limitation of the Grenergy GR8313 supervisor IC...This sounds pretty bleak to me.

In your case, I would take the V2 Bronze / Pylon if you can...I wouldn't overvalue warranty as an excuse to get protection-lottery-city of a unit that is the S12iii.

Yes this was my reasoning for going with the XPG Pylon unit, especially after reading Tom's Hardware's recent review. Based on the tier list I understand that there are two Cooler Master V2 Bronze versions, one for 230v and the other with full range, with the latter being a tier higher. I think the better rated V2 unit is the MPE-6501-ACAAB-UK (several different versions on Amazon UK right now: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Bronze-V2-Bronze-Supply/dp/B07T38XVBD?th=1)

 

[Sapphiree]

7 hours ago, screamopilla said:

Are there any proper reviews of the Seasonic 12 SIII 650w unit? Only one I can find is for the 500w version which I've read isn't on the same platform or doesn't have the same specs

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https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/test_zasilacza_seasonic_s12iii_500_w_lider_klasy_budzetowej-11808.html
In brief the right quality for the price psu for low/midrange setups.

[Firebat]

@LukeSavenije

Hardwareluxx (german) has tested the Cooler Master V850 SFX Gold, and provides some information about the fan. It's a Hong Hua HA9215VH12FD-F00 with Fluid Dynamic Bearing.

 

Primary capacitor is Nichicon 560µF 105°C 450V, secondary is Rubycon, but they don't mention the exact specs.

[iCoNrant]

@LukeSavenije@LukeSavenije here is the review for the v850 gold v2 psu.

 

[SavageNeo]

55 minutes ago, iCoNrant said:

@LukeSavenije@LukeSavenije here is the review for the v850 gold v2 psu.

 

I do not think that is reliable source, but it is them to determine that not me.

[LukeSavenije]

10 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

I do not think that is reliable source, but it is them to determine that not me.

it is, hardwarebusters = aris

[SavageNeo]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it is, hardwarebusters = aris

oh. I did not realise. well then based on those informations where the V2 will be moved in the next revision? Or have you decided yet?

[LukeSavenije]

14 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

oh. I did not realise. well then based on those informations where the V2 will be moved in the next revision? Or have you decided yet?

expect tier a unless I find something off about it

[Zexton]

is Corsair RM1000x grey/black one the same as the white model? and does this also have a gold tier rating here on linus? 

[LukeSavenije]

7 minutes ago, Zexton said:

is Corsair RM1000x grey/black one the same as the white model? and does this also have a gold tier rating here on linus?

this is the Gray label, only RM has a "black" label for the current model