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Hey guys,

 

I am living in Germany and plan to buy a gaming rig for around 2-3k €. This build should be able to run high fidelity games at 1440p and high fps. The build should also include a good monitor. Stuff like mouse and keyboard is already existing.

 

I appreciate your help, best regards.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €329.90 @ Caseking
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler €72.89 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €255.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €136.89 @ Mindfactory
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive €68.50 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card €1149.00 @ Caseking
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case €92.48 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor Asus PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor €779.00 @ Alternate
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2974.45
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-13 16:15 CEST+0200  

 

Main system: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 32GB 6000Mhz / Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID OC/ x2 WD_BLACK NS770 2TBs/ Corsair HX1000i/ NZXT H5 Flow

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3 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €329.90 @ Caseking
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler €72.89 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €255.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €136.89 @ Mindfactory
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive €68.50 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card €1149.00 @ Caseking
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case €92.48 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  
Monitor Asus PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor €779.00 @ Alternate
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2974.45
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-13 16:15 CEST+0200  

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am planning to use a dual monitor set up with the second monitor being used for browsing the web or watching some show on the side. Do you think I need more RAM in this case?

Also I read that some motherboards require a bios update for the AMD processor is this also the case with this particular MB?


 

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13 minutes ago, che3se said:

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am planning to use a dual monitor set up with the second monitor being used for browsing the web or watching some show on the side. Do you think I need more RAM in this case?

Also I read that some motherboards require a bios update for the AMD processor is this also the case with this particular MB?


 

All X570 boards support Zen 2 CPUs out of the box.

 

As for RAM, it depends on what games you will play and how many side programs/chrome tabs you will have open.

Main system: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 32GB 6000Mhz / Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID OC/ x2 WD_BLACK NS770 2TBs/ Corsair HX1000i/ NZXT H5 Flow

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On 10/13/2019 at 8:33 PM, PopsicleHustler said:

As for RAM, it depends on what games you will play and how many side programs/chrome tabs you will have open.

I usually have 20 to 30 tabs open in chrome. I don't play any game actively at the moment but I usually play a good mix of AAA and indie titles. I am interested in playing Cyberpunk next year if this gives you any indication.

 

I am also not sure about the monitor. The monitor you suggested has a reaction time of 4 ms and a refresh rate of 165 Hz but there are monitors with also an IPS panel 1 ms refresh and 144 Hz for around 500€. Is the increase in refresh rate the increase in reaction time and price worth it? I am not really interested in esport titles but I sometimes play shooters like Doom, MoH or even Battlefield (last title I played was BF3).

 

In this list I chose a cheaper monitor and upgraded the RAM, CPU and video card. Is the Ryzen 9 the upgrade worth it?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€537.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€255.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€133.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€136.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€68.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€92.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Monitor: Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €3057.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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23 hours ago, che3se said:

I usually have 20 to 30 tabs open in chrome. I don't play any game actively at the moment but I usually play a good mix of AAA and indie titles. I am interested in playing Cyberpunk next year if this gives you any indication.

 

I am also not sure about the monitor. The monitor you suggested has a reaction time of 4 ms and a refresh rate of 165 Hz but there are monitors with also an IPS panel 1 ms refresh and 144 Hz for around 500€. Is the increase in refresh rate the increase in reaction time and price worth it? I am not really interested in esport titles but I sometimes play shooters like Doom, MoH or even Battlefield (last title I played was BF3).

 

In this list I chose a cheaper monitor and upgraded the RAM, CPU and video card. Is the Ryzen 9 the upgrade worth it?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€537.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€255.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€133.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€136.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€68.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€92.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Monitor: Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €3057.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 22:42 CEST+0200

lets be real here, if you're not into competitive gaming, you won't see the difference between 1ms or 4ms response time.

Main system: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 32GB 6000Mhz / Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID OC/ x2 WD_BLACK NS770 2TBs/ Corsair HX1000i/ NZXT H5 Flow

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On 10/14/2019 at 9:56 PM, che3se said:

I usually have 20 to 30 tabs open in chrome. I don't play any game actively at the moment but I usually play a good mix of AAA and indie titles. I am interested in playing Cyberpunk next year if this gives you any indication.

 

I am also not sure about the monitor. The monitor you suggested has a reaction time of 4 ms and a refresh rate of 165 Hz but there are monitors with also an IPS panel 1 ms refresh and 144 Hz for around 500€. Is the increase in refresh rate the increase in reaction time and price worth it? I am not really interested in esport titles but I sometimes play shooters like Doom, MoH or even Battlefield (last title I played was BF3).

 

In this list I chose a cheaper monitor and upgraded the RAM, CPU and video card. Is the Ryzen 9 the upgrade worth it?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€537.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€255.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€133.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€136.89 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€68.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€92.48 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Monitor: Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€399.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €3057.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 22:42 CEST+0200

If you are just gaming a 3900X isn't worth the extra money over the 3700X. 

 

You could easily save on the board by going with something like an MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

 

The Sabrent Rocket SSD is cheaper than the Samsung 860 EVO and is a lot faster. Not a big deal for gaming but might as well go with it seeing as it costs less.

 

The Corsair RMx is better than the RM. 

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18 hours ago, lee32uk said:

If you are just gaming a 3900X isn't worth the extra money over the 3700X. 

 

You could easily save on the board by going with something like an MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

 

The Sabrent Rocket SSD is cheaper than the Samsung 860 EVO and is a lot faster. Not a big deal for gaming but might as well go with it seeing as it costs less.

 

The Corsair RMx is better than the RM. 

So you mean something like this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€119.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€129.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.13 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.99 @ ARLT) 
Total: €2236.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-16 21:14 CEST+0200

 

Pcpartpicker gives a warning that I may be required to update the bios on this motherboard. The problem is I don't have an older CPU to update the bios if required.

 

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The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.

Does this mean that 2 of the 6 SATA III connectors won't work?

 

I excluded the monitor for now.

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23 minutes ago, che3se said:

So you mean something like this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€119.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€129.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.13 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.99 @ ARLT) 
Total: €2236.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-16 21:14 CEST+0200

 

Pcpartpicker gives a warning that I may be required to update the bios on this motherboard. The problem is I don't have an older CPU to update the bios if required.

 

Does this mean that 2 of the 6 SATA III connectors won't work?

 

I excluded the monitor for now.

Yes. The SATA connectors won’t work but if you are using only an m.2 you’ll be fine

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2 hours ago, che3se said:

So you mean something like this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€119.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€129.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.13 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.99 @ ARLT) 
Total: €2236.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-16 21:14 CEST+0200

 

Pcpartpicker gives a warning that I may be required to update the bios on this motherboard. The problem is I don't have an older CPU to update the bios if required.

 

Does this mean that 2 of the 6 SATA III connectors won't work?

 

I excluded the monitor for now.

The Tomahawk MAX works out of the box.

 

Yes you will lose a couple of SATA if you go with an M.2 SSD but the board has 6 SATA in total so 4 would still be usable.

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Thanks so far. I think i put the decision about the motherboard on hold for the moment as I have other questions I hope you can answer.

 

Is there a difference whether I use 4x8GB or 2x16GB RAM sticks in performance?

 

Are additional fan for the case necessary or are the 2 included in the case enough?

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What about this setup:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.00 @ ARLT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.04 @ Mindfactory) 
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€619.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2690.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-19 23:34 CEST+0200

 

The only issue is the PSU. Pcpartpicker states the following warning message:

 

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The Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

Does that mean i should chose a different CPU?

 

And do you guys think additional fans are required for the case?

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4 hours ago, che3se said:

What about this setup:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€1269.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€99.00 @ ARLT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.04 @ Mindfactory) 
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (€619.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2690.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-19 23:34 CEST+0200

 

The only issue is the PSU. Pcpartpicker states the following warning message:

 

Does that mean i should chose a different CPU?

 

And do you guys think additional fans are required for the case?

You can ignore the warning regarding the additional 4 pin as you don't need to connect that for it to run. The 8 pin cpu will provide more than enough juice.

 

It wouldn't hurt to add an extra intake fan. You can fit a total of 3 x 120mm in the front though if you want. 

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