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hey there everyone! today i have a question for the experts out there, regarding my CPU.

i bought  this thing in june this year, and i have an  app called 'coretemp' to check the temperatures. i know i should take it with a pinch of salt so to speak, but it's  an indication nonetheless. 

i've heard countless stories of how these things like to heat up and what not, so after using it for some time i was surprised to see my cpu didn't go above 50 degrees celcius under full load (cinebench). a couple of weeks ago however, it suddenly  started to rise, and it ran much hotter even when idling. a minute ago i took the air compressor en cleaned the fans and heatsyncs, now she's at 22 degrees. the question i have is: why do i read so many reports of it running hot,when mine seems to be very cool indeed? furthermore, a friend tells me that these cooler temps are just as bad as having it run too hot, is this true? i like to think that it's better to reach temperatures of around 30 then it is to reach 50 or above, but he insists that below 30 is too cold. the FX8350 came with a cooler master wraith, maybe this explains why it's not acting like a heater?

 

anyway, thanks in advance!

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I really don't remember people saying it runs particularly hot, seeing as the AM3 and AM3+ for some reason had quite a low max temperature:

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-8350

 

Keep in mind though, temperatures are based on your ambient temperatures. If your room is 40 degrees C, or 10 degrees C, your CPU will also have a different sort of temperature.

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Just now, Andrew 1337 said:

As long as you stay below 61C you are running within tolerances. You can never be to cold, but you can always be to hot.

@Andrew 1337, that's  what i thought... i'm in the netherlands, so we rarely get above 30 degrees celcius, and either way, my cpu never really got above 55. right now it's at 16, and i have war thunder running int the background.

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3 minutes ago, minibois said:

I really don't remember people saying it runs particularly hot, seeing as the AM3 and AM3+ for some reason had quite a low max temperature:

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-8350

 

Keep in mind though, temperatures are based on your ambient temperatures. If your room is 40 degrees C, or 10 degrees C, your CPU will also have a different sort of temperature.

well, on this  very forum, somebody said to me that these cpu's are room heaters, but i've never really noticed that myself, which seems to be in line with what you're telling me... 

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9 minutes ago, Stefant4 said:

well, on this  very forum, somebody said to me that these cpu's are room heaters, but i've never really noticed that myself, which seems to be in line with what you're telling me... 

There was a time where AMD videocards were running hotter than Nvidia cards (shoutout to the 90C reference 290X), but IMO the CPU's have been quite in line in terms of power consumption and temperatures as Intel's offerings (often Intel having superior performance.. so relative warmth I guess?).

Of course there have been CPU's to top the power consumption charts, such as the FX 9590 and FX 9370, but those I wouldn't consider main series chips (just like Intel X-series CPU's are either).

 

The whole 'AMD = HOTTT!!!!" thing has become a sort of meme at this point, IMO. Especially with Ryzen's performance vs. temps.

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They are 125w CPU's - they are room heaters.  (EDIT - I have one, and have journeyed to the center of 5.0ghz OC and back, failing.  Ill be looping it soon to get there)

 

If your CPU is running at 16c than your reporting software is incorrect.  Sub ambient isn't possible without a shit ton of science involved.  

 

Use HWInfo or HWMonitor to check CPU temps (reliable for third party) as these are free to download.

 

Mitigating a CPU's heat isn't the same as saying its not putting out a lot of heat.  I run an aggressive overclock, cold as can be, on a large custom loop.

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Just now, Tristerin said:

They are 125w CPU's - they are room heaters.  

 

If your CPU is running at 16c than your reporting software is incorrect.  Sub ambient isn't possible without a shit ton of science involved.  

 

Use HWInfo or HWMonitor to check CPU temps (reliable for third party) as these are free to download.

 

Mitigating a CPU's heat isn't the same as saying its not putting out a lot of heat.  I run an aggressive overclock, cold as can be, on a large custom loop.

thank you for the links, i'll try them, and see if they paint a different picture...

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Just now, Stefant4 said:

thank you for the links, i'll try them, and see if they paint a different picture...

IIRC at Idle the FX lineup doesn't report correctly (I recall mine showing sub ambient even on good monitoring software but again, not possible without money and science involved - physics etc).  The main reason for it being so hot imho, is as @minibois pointed towards, comparing it to its brethren at the time with performance to power consumption the FX lineup could start a fire and not even come close to keeping up (since at that time most things didn't utilize that many cores).  

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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