want to build a pc for my kids

[Onboard87]

i have a ryzen 7 2700 and an older evga sc 1070. i used PC part picker and built a pc that looks like it would play Skyrim, Minecraft, and other popular aaa games. is there better parts that should be used? also i know the PS is over powered by 40 percent. any help will be appreciated as it has been a long time since i built a pc from the ground up. thanks everybody!

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gJ6kL2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) --already have---
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($181.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($569.99 @ Amazon)--already have--- 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($129.80 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1599.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 14:25 EDT-0400

[Stormseeker9]

Hi,

maybe something like this.

left cpu and GPU out as you already own them (right?)

 

16GB is plenty although if you want you can always go with 32GB.

 

this motherboard has built in wifi and has good Vrm cooling. 

550W model of the Rmx will be plenty (high quality unit too).

 

left the rest as is  

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$74.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$79.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$74.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$573.75
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$563.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 14:41 EDT-0400

 

[Dedayog]

God don't pay that much for Windows!  Run inactive or buy a grey market key!

 

You can get cheaper SSD's, look into Crucial or Sabrent or Intel.

 

Motherboard is WAY too expensive, should never be more than the CPU.  Grab a B450 Tomahawk from MSI maybe.

 

A good 550w PSU is all you need.  

 

Do they need 32GB of RAM?

[leo1798]

I made some changes that I think would far improve your build:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$169.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$194.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$149.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case	$72.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$807.73
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$777.73
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 14:42 EDT-0400

- X570 is a vast improvement over X470, and this board has built-in wifi and an amazing VRM.

- Ram kit is cheaper and will perform just as well

- Skip out on Hard Drives, SSD prices are falling rapidly and you won't need 3.5TB of storage for what you're doing

- The P400A is a much more modern, airflow-focued case for a similar price. RGB fans are $25 extra

- Power Supply is cheaper and will do just as well

- Get Windows from a grey-market site like SCDKey, you'll save $100 or more

 

[leo1798]

3 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

God don't pay that much for Windows!  Run inactive or buy a grey market key!

 

You can get cheaper SSD's, look into Crucial or Sabrent or Intel.

 

Motherboard is WAY too expensive, should never be more than the CPU.  Grab a B450 Tomahawk from MSI maybe.

 

A good 550w PSU is all you need.  

 

Do they need 32GB of RAM?

32GB of ram is a nice luxury to have, and it's never bad to get a newer, nicer motherboard for future upgrade potential.

[Dedayog]

Just now, leo1798 said:

32GB of ram is a nice luxury to have, and it's never bad to get a newer, nicer motherboard for future upgrade potential.

Unless he's playing heavily modded Skyrim, 16 is fine.

 

With the 2700, he'll upgrade platforms before he upgrades using that board.  VRM's?  For stock 2700?  VRM's only come into play with overclocking.  For his needs, and 99% of gamers, a B450 would be more than fine for over $50 less.

 

If he wants higher end stuff, sure.  Trying to save some money by not spending on things he doesn't need at all.

[Stormseeker9]

@leo1798

 

sorry but a X570 is definitely not needed here.

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, leo1798 said:

Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $89.99 @ Amazon

PSU has OCP related issues. Would suggest avpiding in favor of other options. 

 

21 minutes ago, leo1798 said:

X570 is a vast improvement over X470,

Depends on which board you are comparing, but in general x570 is pretty good, doesnt mean x470 is not. 

 

26 minutes ago, leo1798 said:

nicer motherboard for future upgrade potential.

You can run a 16 core just fine on a tomahawk, so i dont see a reason why you will need a better board.

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, Onboard87 said:

any help will be appreciated as it has been a long time since i built a pc from the ground up. thanks everybody!

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL Evo X II RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 3 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $511.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 15:15 EDT-0400

 

Cost lowering, and changes in terms of need. This will be more than fine. 

[Onboard87]

thank you all! yeah they are 11 and i figured that they would start to do some modding, class assignments, and that kinda stuff. i know more about maintenance and software. but hardware i know just enough to be dangerous and really appreciate all the feed back! one other question could i set up a external hard drive and have both PC's mine and there's hooked into it for steam games to run off that at the same time with out needing to set up a virtual computer? 

[Stormseeker9]

@GoldenLag

 

i suggested  The gaming pro Carbon as it comes with built in wifi ( op added a wifi card) and it’s a very high quality board. If choosing Tomahawk you’ll need to buy a seperate one and I thought kids might like the extra added rgb of the GPC  (also saw budget OP was using and thought this would fit nicely in.)

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, Stormseeker9 said:

@GoldenLag

 

i suggested  The gaming pro Carbon as it comes with built in wifi ( op added a wifi card) and it’s a very high quality board. If choosing Tomahawk you’ll need to buy a seperate one and I thought kids might like the extra added rgb of the GPC  (also saw budget OP was using and thought this would fit nicely in.)

Ah, i didnt notice the wificard. Then it made a lot more sense. Thats my bad. 

 

My other changes still stand tho.

[Onboard87]

You guys rock 

[Stormseeker9]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

Ah, i didnt notice the wificard. Then it made a lot more sense. Thats my bad. 

 

My other changes still stand tho.

I agree with the changes you made besides psu, personally would still go with the Corsair RMx which is marginally a better unit as the MWE. 550W should be plenty; unless you opted for 650w for future upgradability ?

[GoldenLag]

14 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I agree with the changes you made besides psu, personally would still go with the Corsair RMx which is marginally a better unit as the MWE. 550W should be plenty; unless you opted for 650w for future upgradability ?

I was gonna go 550w, but i went for full modularity and that was the cheapest one. 550w is more than enough. Rmx is nice, but you can also grab a straight power for a little less aswell

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

I was gonna go 550w, but i went for full modularity and that was the cheapest one. 550w is more than enough. Rmx is nice, but you can also grab a straight power for a little less aswell

Yeah full modularity is important (I find a time least) - makes sense.

 

either psu will be good for this build 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Yeah full modularity is important (I find a time least) - makes sense.

 

either psu will be good for this build 

Semi-modular is also fine as all the non-modular bits are bits you would use anyways. So a pure power 11 600w is fine (i draw the line at 550 as 500w is a little too little for any consumer configuration) tho technically 500w is also fine for 9900k + 2080ti. PP11 is dualrail and can handle half the power on each rail i believe.

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Semi-modular is also fine as all the non-modular bits are bits you would use anyways. So a pure power 11 600w is fine (i draw the line at 550 as 500w is a little too little for any consumer configuration) tho technically 500w is also fine for 9900k + 2080ti. PP11 is dualrail and can handle half the power on each rail i believe.

Oh I meant myself, I wouldn’t want a semi or non modular psu - but a full modular —> cable management