Used Intel 2011 Motherboard Shipping

[Chiakuu]

I had a question about ordering intel 2011 used motherboards; do I have to worry about the socket pins when shipping? If so, how hard would it be to straighten them? My understanding is that the 2011 socket has pins, but feel free to correct me. I only have installed an AMD FM2+ cpu before so I’m newer to intel sockets. Thanks

[Electronics Wizardy]

Get a good picture of the socket, you can normally tell if its bent pretty easily. Its possible to fix some types of bent pings, but if a board has them, id stay away.

 

Id probably stay away from 2011 if your trying to upgrade, and try to get a newer platform. 2011 is showing its age, and its not that much cheaper that newer better platforms like am4

[Zando_]

Unless you're buying from an idiot, they'll ship it so the pins are fine. Something has to actually go into the CPU socket and press on the pins to risk bending them. 

[Fakmykak]

As long as if they don't ship the board like an idiot, the board should be fine. Dunno why you would want a 2011 socket in 2019, but ok...

[Zando_]

Just now, Fakmykak said:

As long as if they don't ship the board like an idiot, the board should be fine. Dunno why you would want a 2011 socket in 2019, but ok...

Because the old chipsets are hella fun? X58 is excellent fun, X99 still performs well, I haven't had a chance to run X79 but it still holds up according to benches. The 6c/8c CPUs can beat 2nd gen Ryzen easily when OCed, IDK how they compare to Zen 2 but they can compete rather well with Intel's 9000 series chips, especially considering their age. 

[Firewrath9]

15 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Because the old chipsets are hella fun? X58 is excellent fun, X99 still performs well, I haven't had a chance to run X79 but it still holds up according to benches. The 6c/8c CPUs can beat 2nd gen Ryzen easily when OCed, IDK how they compare to Zen 2 but they can compete rather well with Intel's 9000 series chips, especially considering their age. 

You can also get a dual LGA-2011-1 server board and a couple of 10c20t cpus for a total of 20c40t and 64GB of cheap ECC DDR3 for 300$. the multi-core will compare favorable with a 3900X at half the cost.

[Fakmykak]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Because the old chipsets are hella fun? X58 is excellent fun, X99 still performs well, I haven't had a chance to run X79 but it still holds up according to benches. The 6c/8c CPUs can beat 2nd gen Ryzen easily when OCed, IDK how they compare to Zen 2 but they can compete rather well with Intel's 9000 series chips, especially considering their age. 

That's highly debatable. 

 

I will agree that they're fun, but not better. Socket 2011 can only use 6c, not 8c processors cause it is not 2011-3. Not to mention the best CPU for a 2011 board is the 4960x, which costs more than a R5 3600 (according to EBay Buy It Now). Your also assuming that OP is planning to overclock the chip, which they may or may not do. Not to mention Socket2011 chips use double the TDP of a 3600. Buying used parts comes with risk too, not everything always works perfectly.... 

 

All in all, a 2011socket system could possibly be even more expensive than a R5 3600 system. Use more energy, give less performance.

 

Just cause you love your x58 and x99 systems, does not mean that they are just as good or better than modern hardware.

[Zando_]

Just now, Fakmykak said:

That's highly debatable. 

 

I will agree that they're fun, but not better. Socket 2011 can only use 6c, not 8c processors cause it is not 2011-3. Not to mention the best CPU for a 2011 board is the 4960x, which costs more than a R5 3600 (according to EBay Buy It Now). Your also assuming that OP is planning to overclock the chip, which they may or may not do. Not to mention Socket2011 chips use double the TDP of a 3600. Buying used parts comes with risk too, not everything always works perfectly.... 

 

All in all, a 2011socket system could possibly be even more expensive than a R5 3600 system. Use more energy, give less performance.

 

Just cause you love your x58 and x99 systems, does not mean that they are just as good or better than modern hardware.

Didn't say they were better on all points, just that they can compete, and the OCable CPUs can beat Zen/Zen+ Ryzen chips. Also google the E5 1680v2 for the LGA2011 socket, it's an overclockable 8c/16t chip on the X79 socket. All the v2 Xeons are OCable IIRC. There's no OCable Xeons for X99 sadly (just BLCK tweaks and such, no actual multiplier OCing like more normal CPUs), but the i7s go up to 10 cores (though the 6950X is insanely expensive). They won't offer better value than the Zen 2 chips for most workloads, or as low of a power consumption, but they're hella fun to muck around with. There's nothing really wrong with liking a platform that you enjoy. 

Also I can tell you my 6c/12t i7 5820K at 4.5Ghz seems to run almost the same as my 2700X did, and that was a $330 CPU on a $290 (Crosshair VII Hero) board, was boring af to OC so I moved back to X58 and now X99. My current rig is a $160 CPU on a $99 motherboard (5820K + EVGA Classified X99 I got on a B-stock sale). I just like the X chipsets, my CPU OCs well, and I get access to HEDT stuff as an extra benefit. Once I upgrade to a 5960X, it should beat a 2700X once on a decent OC, and only costs slightly more than the 2700Xs are now. 

On the overclocking side (aka fun IMO), these platforms offer more than Ryzen ever could. Taking a 3.33Ghz max boost Xeon on X58 to 4.54-4.74Ghz all core while balancing the uncore multi and RAM speeds and timings is a lot more fun and nets a much bigger perf increase than OCing Ryzens ever did. Taking my 2700X to .5-1Ghz below stock boost (4.25-4.3Ghz single core boost, I only ever got to 4.2Ghz all core fully stable) is pretty damn disappointing by comparison. 


Basically, should you buy old Intel HEDT stuff for the best value? Nah, Ryzen is killing that rn. But are there still plenty of upsides if you just wanna buy it because you enjoy the darned platform? Yeah, they still offer plenty to entertain enthusiasts and X79/X99 are still competitive performance wise with the right CPU, of which there's a good selection. 

[porina]

11 minutes ago, Fakmykak said:

Socket 2011 can only use 6c, not 8c processors cause it is not 2011-3.

The E5 Xeons will get you the higher core count parts and depending on the exact model, can be pretty cheap now. Clocks may suffer though. I balanced cores and clocks in my cheap Chinese X79 mobo build with an E5 2667 (6 cores, 2.9 base, 3.5 turbo). Mobo + CPU costing only slightly more than a used Ryzen 1600 goes for by itself. If you consider ram also, used DDR3 is cheaper than DDR4.

 

I wouldn't recommend the above build for general use, unless you want to see how a budget gaming system could look. Debating what old GPU to pair it with to finish it off...