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I'm going to be building a low budget 200-300 USD gaming PC and I was considering a xeon x3450, since it is the same price as the x3440, and my budget will most likely be closer to 200 than 300. I'll mostly be playing minecraft. and I'm aiming for around 75FPS at an 8 chunk render distance with optifine. I will be pairing it with either a gtx 750ti, or an rx470, depenging on the budget

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Ryzen has made the modern upgrade path quite a big deal, it's not hard to put together a super basic AM4 system for your budget and enjoy similar performance with a good path forward to modern frame pushing goodness. What kind of deal are you getting on the 3450 and components?

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Ryzen has made the modern upgrade path quite a big deal, it's not hard to put together a super basic AM4 system for your budget and enjoy similar performance with a good path forward to modern frame pushing goodness. What kind of deal are you getting on the 3450 and components?

The x3450 is for 13 usd, and I still need to see the rest

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1 minute ago, Genwyn said:

If you’re paying more than 15$ for the cpu and more than 25$ for the motherboard, don’t bother.

Lynnfield xeon systems get super expensive when it comes to the ram. You’d be better off with any other cheap OEM system before building a xeon box after a certain price point.

 

A fat optiplex 790 with a sandy bridge i5 will be under 100$, regular DDR3 is cheap.

Hmm, What GPU would I be able to pair with it without bottlenecking?

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Sorry about the late replies my wifi lag spiked out of nowhere

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4 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

RX 580 or 6gb 1060 would be probably about the top an i5 2400 could handle without a bottleneck.

 

Case in point, optiplex 790 with an i5 2400, 8gb of ram and Windows 10. Replace the psu with something that has pcie power, potentially add a cheap SSD and migrate windows to that, pair with a GPU.

This + 50$ psu + 100$ RX 570 = 250$ 1080p gaming machine.

 

and there are mountains of the MT’s on eBay, they hit the lease cycle a few years ago where they’re cheap like the LGA 775 models used to be 

the haswell ones are still around 150-200$ 

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Alright, I'll consider this route. I also just found an x3470 for 14usd, 4c/8t 3.5GHz. how good would that be as opposed to an i5-240?

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5 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

RX 580 or 6gb 1060 would be probably about the top an i5 2400 could handle without a bottleneck.

 

Case in point, optiplex 790 with an i5 2400, 8gb of ram and Windows 10. Replace the psu with something that has pcie power, potentially add a cheap SSD and migrate windows to that, pair with a GPU.

This + 50$ psu + 100$ RX 570 = 250$ 1080p gaming machine.

 

and there are mountains of the MT’s on eBay, they hit the lease cycle a few years ago where they’re cheap like the LGA 775 models used to be 

the haswell ones are still around 150-200$ 

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Also, you said that xeon memory would be expensive, what do you mean by that? Do I have to go ECC?

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11 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

RX 580 or 6gb 1060 would be probably about the top an i5 2400 could handle without a bottleneck.

 

Case in point, optiplex 790 with an i5 2400, 8gb of ram and Windows 10. Replace the psu with something that has pcie power, potentially add a cheap SSD and migrate windows to that, pair with a GPU.

This + 50$ psu + 100$ RX 570 = 250$ 1080p gaming machine.

 

and there are mountains of the MT’s on eBay, they hit the lease cycle a few years ago where they’re cheap like the LGA 775 models used to be 

the haswell ones are still around 150-200$ 

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What about this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M93p-SFF-Intel-Core-i5-4570-3-2GHZ-8GB-500GB-NO-OS/113885984343?hash=item1a84223657:g:f3wAAOSwEMNdepSN

 

Edit: I found another optiplex, like the one you found, but with an i5-650 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-980-i5-650-3-20Ghz-8GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-DVD-RW-NO-OS/274026117248?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3fcd3ab880:g:ESUAAOSwM~ddjK33&enc=AQAEAAACMBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qUvHitfcuf3GgywcGc%2FszDU8pgBCIffsggiTzRVvYAY4hW27foKrqvQY9gFhDmnL69fF6tzQfcP6WYFoW0kNtCeyhgD1%2FR61rcahB2%2FruBM2F3TlfTofmqEvRe7GMwmX0x1yU4nj%2F94fOK0JPZwVDFj2WOLXWkenCwoYGMxrKEJJMSSFoKmNKj3gGgkAx7hs%2B8zhNSm%2FsuRywHs3GHLzuEzSBfDNUCBznbbnH8sl2Rwg21xn1Kala5HfhHQOo5Z2MDm2AkFn%2Bbvou2MZxAYynzvGDXchiyDk6aRRYLwbF9tW%2BGz2vpgj%2BTYXvcq3k%2FOQ5WgCw2wpLkOEtwCpQmpuOYC0WlmqdQEPXNVpUoozMXTnz7gkS9IZluoCVw1HnjgkZKRnyuAK%2BJONP2kZmoEsoVmJFVvh0WlNORuJACTnmA3uwW%2BxrL4D5A%2FJLrE02S4hkJe15lqNhGEpwuV6UeyWFLeZgmuKqSXJgesAiy1%2FMdfaAc%2F4NabN%2B8vN6nYr091mAUoN26lU3dbAcfrKjd87c5O0iBJ58BXthaPVQkEoKnvQ8DsKTaxmiDyX5Q0mRhqYXSTu76RS0BhjYpiZPZUTaE0y6%2FSXsJEguU4PVxFZ3WzPvXvZw4AjDrILKWtVM2Hio3dPXf5Icovuzoozps%2Bp1T1baL8NXwFHA5nzmzNl4Ioe4Jddt4TvJj0aEzJvh70AczbWwmBvvNaolQOPQTWb91M&checksum=2740261172487635c4d14e94434e8fa1d75b53db7423

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2 minutes ago, ImAyaanKhan said:

SFF are really common in the ex-lease market. You need to head over to lenovo's website, get this model's manual, see what its expansion slots look like internally.

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3 minutes ago, Augustin said:

SFF are really common in the ex-lease market. You need to head over to lenovo's website, get this model's manual, see what its expansion slots look like internally.

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It has one 

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