Best motherboard for Ryzen 7 3700x?

[dxan12]

Going to be building a new system and have decided to go with a ryzen 7 3700x.

 

Looking for suggestions for motherboards, as when it comes to anything beyond what is compatible, I'm clueless.

 

preferably below £200

 

thanks in advance

 

[LukeSavenije]

something from tier D or higher will do, but higher is of course better

 

a recommendation would be the MSI MAX series, as they are guaranteed to come with a zen2 bios out of the box, but a lot of the "normal" b450's and x470's do already

[5x5]

22 minutes ago, dxan12 said:

Going to be building a new system and have decided to go with a ryzen 7 3700x.

 

Looking for suggestions for motherboards, as when it comes to anything beyond what is compatible, I'm clueless.

 

preferably below £200

 

thanks in advance

 

Asus TuF X570 is the best board you can afford. It's right there price wise and has solid power delivery and firmware

[Flying Sausages]

6 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Asus TuF X570 is the best board you can afford. It's right there price wise and has solid power delivery and firmware

The chipset fan is loud asf from someone who owned it and posted a review. The 4 sata ports position facing front is retarded for me. NO SLI But Crossfire?! No Intel gigabit LAN and Wifi is AC and not AS. 

 

I would skip X570 fr though. A lot of people reported big gpu can block chipset fan and cause it to increase temp and fan rpm. In addition, the reliability of these chipset fans though. 

[5x5]

15 minutes ago, OlympicAssEater said:

The chipset fan is loud asf from someone who owned it and posted a review. The 4 sata ports position facing front is retarded for me. NO SLI But Crossfire?! No Intel gigabit LAN and Wifi is AC and not AS. 

 

I would skip X570 fr though. A lot of people reported big gpu can block chipset fan and cause it to increase temp and fan rpm. In addition, the reliability of these chipset fans though. 

Reliability isn't an issue - they're rated for hundreds of thousands of hours at max RPM. It'll take 4-5 years before they die. They're also not gonna be much louder than the CPU and GPU combined.

 

The sata ports is annoying but meh - SLI and Crossfire are dead so their support is pointless anyway. Gigabit LAN missing is kinda of a bummer but Wi-Fi 5 (AC) is more than enough for gaming and content creation - Wi-FI 6 (AX) is still in a beta phase.

[Flying Sausages]

31 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Reliability isn't an issue - they're rated for hundreds of thousands of hours at max RPM. It'll take 4-5 years before they die. They're also not gonna be much louder than the CPU and GPU combined.

A lot of people want to use it for more than 5 years so 4 to 5 years reliable for the chipset fan is a big no for me. There probably will be no spare parts for replacement. On some board, you have to take out the board to access screws. 

 

The chipset fan is loud asf on a lot of models. These chipset fans sound like it has its own sound signature. 

 

Tom's Hardware reports on the X570 Taichi that the whining fan can become annoying

 

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, OlympicAssEater said:

A lot of people want to use it for more than 5 years so 4 to 5 years reliable for the chipset fan is a big no for me. There probably will be no spare parts for replacement. On some board, you have to take out the board to access screws. 

 

The chipset fan is loud asf on a lot of models. These chipset fans sound like it has its own sound signature. 

 

Tom's Hardware reports on the X570 Taichi that the whining fan can become annoying

 

Keep in mind 5 years at 100% load 24/7 - if you run it 12/7 that's 10 years. If you run it 6 hours a day that's 20 years. Ball-bearing fans like these don't fail as often as people might believe. I still have a Pentium 4 fanned board that hasn't died. That's from 2004. 15 years. And the fans wont ramp to 100% constantly. They're be at 20-30% most of the time.

 

As for replacements, you can buy them from Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte or MSI if out of warranty. These are seriously high end products that cost upward of 300$, you're not going to be having issues like that in most cases.

 

As for noise, if you don't spend the day glued to the case, it's fine. Seriously, we have some at work, it's not audible when the PC is under the desk. You have to go looking for noise to find it. And considering the types of content Toms runs, I wouldn't exactly take their word for it when I have opposing experience with a Pro4 X570

[Flying Sausages]

19 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Keep in mind 5 years at 100% load 24/7 - if you run it 12/7 that's 10 years. If you run it 6 hours a day that's 20 years. Ball-bearing fans like these don't fail as often as people might believe. I still have a Pentium 4 fanned board that hasn't died. That's from 2004. 15 years. And the fans wont ramp to 100% constantly. They're be at 20-30% most of the time.

It depends on the temp of the chipset. If you have a big ass GPU that is blocking the chipset fan than expect the fan to ramp up more than 50% because it sucking hot air from the GPU. Chipset fans are like hit or miss to a lot of boards. Some will die soon and some will die later. I have already see a couple of videos of faulty fans on some X570 boards.

19 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

As for replacements, you can buy them from Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte or MSI if out of warranty. These are seriously high end products that cost upward of 300$, you're not going to be having issues like that in most cases.

You won't find them from manufacturer official site after 3 years so good luck try to find a spare part when the fan die 5 years later. It is the same thing with my Corsair 750D where a lot of parts I tried to get from Corsair is unavailable because Corsair don't make them anymore. 

19 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

As for noise, if you don't spend the day glued to the case, it's fine. Seriously, we have some at work, it's not audible when the PC is under the desk. You have to go looking for noise to find it. And considering the types of content Toms runs, I wouldn't exactly take their word for it when I have opposing experience with a Pro4 X570

I don't trust them reviews say x570 chipset fan is quite when the noise level is 40 to 50db. 

 

A lot of people are waiting for B550 with pcie 4 or no pcie 4 as alternative for X570 with horrendous chipset fan.

 

 

[Mathieu9836]

I would consider buying a good B450\X470 board before buying a ''low end'' X570 board.

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

I would consider buying a good B450\X470 board before buying a ''low end'' X570 board.

Reasoning? Because even the best B450 VRMs aren't as good as a "low end X570"

 

7 minutes ago, OlympicAssEater said:

It depends on the temp of the chipset. If you have a big ass GPU that is blocking the chipset fan than expect the fan to ramp up more than 50% because it sucking hot air from the GPU. Chipset fans are like hit or miss to a lot of boards. Some will die soon and some will die later. I have already see a couple of videos of faulty fans on some X570 boards.

You won't find them from manufacturer official site after 3 years so good luck try to find a spare part when the fan die 5 years later. It is the same thing with my Corsair 750D where a lot of parts I tried to get from Corsair is unavailable because Corsair don't make them anymore. 

I don't trust them reviews say x570 chipset fan is quite when the noise level is 40 to 50db. 

 

A lot of people are waiting for B550 with pcie 4 or no pcie 4 as alternative for X570 with horrendous chipset fan.

 

 

Do you have any failure rate data or is this just speculation? So far I'm seeing speculation based in extreme circumstances that are so highly unlikely that it's not even funny. Power Supplies have 10-12 year warranties and use the same or worse fan bearings. How do they not fail? Easy, the fan is the least likely area of failure in any electronic unless you purposefully abuse it.

 

Secondly, I can still get parts from Asus for my old GPU (fans) even tho it's from 2014. Unless you have concrete evidence, I will not argue further since you are speculating bars on nothing.

 

Lastly, sound waves don't scale linearly. 40db(A) is quieter than most CPU coolers and GPUs. 50db(A) is 5-6 times louder. So long as the fan is at 30-44db(A) then noise will not be an issue.

[Flying Sausages]

9 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Do you have any failure rate data or is this just speculation? So far I'm seeing speculation based in extreme circumstances that are so highly unlikely that it's not even funny. Power Supplies have 10-12 year warranties and use the same or worse fan bearings. How do they not fail? Easy, the fan is the least likely area of failure in any electronic unless you purposefully abuse it.

Than how come when you search for chipset fan died, tons of results are popping up? One example is the X58 chipset fan here: https://forums.evga.com/X5839s-Northbridge-Fan-Replacement-m2029965.aspx

 

https://www.electronicproducts.com/Power_Products/AC_DC_Power_Supplies/The_five_main_reasons_power_supplies_fail_And_what_can_be_done_about_it.aspx

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Fans are the number one failure mechanism of power supplies, as found by both military MTBF simulations as well as Belcore standards and as both simulated and demonstrated in reality. As the only electromechanical moving part incorporated into power supplies, fans are prone to fail even in the most properly designed power supplies. Often, we see a no-fans requirement for the power supply only to have the end user add fans to get rid of the heat of the entire system. But this approach just transfers the problem from one place to another.

Another problem in the industry is the proliferation of counterfeit fans into the supply chain. In one case that I know of, a customer discovered a substitute fan they bought that was indistinguishable from the original — except that it moved 30% less air and consumed different power than the original. It is important to make sure that your power supply partner has processes to keep counterfeit parts out of the supply chain; otherwise, that low-cost power supply is going to get expensive very quickly. 

A fanless system can be sealed, which also eliminates other issues, including ingress of moisture. In the case of outdoor applications, such as digital signage, a sealed system can keep out leaves, bugs, twigs, and bird nests, as well as rain and moisture and, in the case of maritime applications, salt and fog.  

Removing the fan increases reliability by 25% and is the best solution for avoiding failure. A good design that keeps the efficiency of the power supply high enough makes fans unnecessary. 

The key to good power electronics design is: “don’t need a fan if you can help it.” To address this need, Excelsys recently introduced a convection-coo

 

15 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Secondly, I can still get parts from Asus for my old GPU (fans) even tho it's from 2014. Unless you have concrete evidence, I will not argue further since you are speculating bars on nothing.

Source that you can get part from your GPU fan despite it is an old GPU.

18 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Lastly, sound waves don't scale linearly. 40db(A) is quieter than most CPU coolers and GPUs. 50db(A) is 5-6 times louder. So long as the fan is at 30-44db(A) then noise will not be an issue.

40db to 50db is still loud and not quite period for those that want quite PC environment.

[Mathieu9836]

You don't need 8 direct phases to run a 3700X, and some good X470 boards have better features than '' low end'' X570 boards. I don't even know why they went all out on the VRMs with X570, it's pretty much useless unless you get the 3900 or 3950 at a ridiculously high OC. You can run pretty much all the Zen 2 CPU on a 150$ B450 board, maybe not the 3900 with a high OC, but at stock it will. I would be looking into getting good mid range VRMs and more features then 8 SATA ports and 12 direct phases running at idle.

 

Edit: i might be wrong, but that's my opinion.

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[David19]

To begin with, let us discuss what exactly is Ryzen 7 3700X. It is nothing but a third-generation microprocessor that is based on AMD’s Zen 2 architecture. The need for this microprocessor is that it is best for those who love to play games. The famous games with which we are acquainted are Star Wars, GTA 5, Battlefront 2, and many more. These games need a powerful CPU for smooth functioning. So, this CPU is well equipped with 8 cores and 16 threads. Another best thing about this processor is it’s frequency which is 3.6 Hz, and it also possesses 65W TDP, which is excellent and remarkable to run. 

 

So, let’s not waste any more time and look at the special features of this processor.

 

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