Low Profile Graphic Cards?

[Sup3rJD]

Hello! I'm going to he building a gaming pc on a budget and I am wanting to use a dell optiplex 9020 with a core i7(4th gen) and 16GB of ram. Any good recommendations on a low profile graphics card

[manikyath]

good? no.. not really.

 

with low profile cards, you're usually limited to stuff like GT1030, or if you can find one a GT1050.

[BTGbullseye]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

good? no.. not really.

 

with low profile cards, you're usually limited to stuff like GT1030, or if you can find one a GT1050.

Really just better off going for a Ryzen 5 3400G setup with good RAM... Better performance, and still a low profile system.

[manikyath]

Just now, BTGbullseye said:

Really just better off going for a Ryzen 5 3400G setup with good RAM... Better performance, and still a low profile system.

you overestimate the price of second hand dell optiplex.

[Tristerin]

Whats your GPU budget - they make GTX 1070 that's single slot, but expensive AF.  They make a GTX 1050 Ti single slot - runs hot as piss, and is super expensive compared to a regular 1050 ti.

[GrockleTD]

4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Whats your GPU budget - they make GTX 1070 that's single slot, but expensive AF.  They make a GTX 1050 Ti single slot - runs hot as piss, and is super expensive compared to a regular 1050 ti.

im pretty sure the problem is half height, not single slot, this is probably an SFF pc

[BTGbullseye]

11 minutes ago, manikyath said:

you overestimate the price of second hand dell optiplex.

Unless it's less than $20, it's not worth it.

[Tristerin]

16 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

im pretty sure the problem is half height, not single slot, this is probably an SFF pc

I was hoping it would at least be a microtower (mine can fit blade type GPUs)

[manikyath]

24 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Unless it's less than $20, it's not worth it.

so.. a fully working computer with a core i7, usually 4-16GB ram, and sometimes a working hard drive (or ssd!) with a pre-activated windows installation isnt worth any money, and OP should spend >500 bucks on a new ryzen system instead?

 

i mean.. i'm all for ryzen, but optiplexes are a stunning deal.

[BTGbullseye]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

so.. a fully working computer with a core i7, usually 4-16GB ram, and sometimes a working hard drive (or ssd!) with a pre-activated windows installation isnt worth any money, and OP should spend >500 bucks on a new ryzen system instead?

 

i mean.. i'm all for ryzen, but optiplexes are a stunning deal.

Preowned, unless it was just sitting in the package, is not worth a whole lot. Also, that $500 would include case, peripherals, and monitor.

[manikyath]

Just now, BTGbullseye said:

Preowned, unless it was just sitting in the package, is not worth a whole lot. Also, that $500 would include case, peripherals, and monitor.

its a working system, usually going for less than the sum of cpu+mobo+ram+cooler on the market of used "gamer stuff" market.

 

also, if you can piece together a full setup, with peripherals, for 500 bucks without cheaping out on the components you're a wizard.

unlike what it has been in the past, these "premium" office workstations often have pretty high quality power supplies.

[BTGbullseye]

Just now, manikyath said:

also, if you can piece together a full setup, with peripherals, for 500 bucks without cheaping out on the components you're a wizard.

What country you're in matters... I'm in the USA, so I can do this with mid-grade parts.

[manikyath]

Just now, BTGbullseye said:

What country you're in matters... I'm in the USA, so I can do this with mid-grade parts.

i'm in the EU, used market here is inflated prices central, refurbished office critters are a steal even here, and they're usually cheaper in the states.

[NoahTheHyena]

7 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

im pretty sure the problem is half height, not single slot, this is probably an SFF pc

The 9020 is not a small form factor if you ask me. 

[aisle9]

7 hours ago, Sup3rJD said:

Hello! I'm going to he building a gaming pc on a budget and I am wanting to use a dell optiplex 9020 with a core i7(4th gen) and 16GB of ram. Any good recommendations on a low profile graphics card

Ok, here's your problem. The Opti 9020 SFF has the PCIe x16 slot on the bottom. This not only means that you're limited to half-height, but you're also limited to single slot. The single most powerful GPU you can practically install is a GT 1030. There is a Radeon Pro WX4100 (iirc) which is basically a single-slot half height RX 460, but the price on those is rather stupid ($130+).

 

If you're looking to build an Optiplex SFF sleeper, your best bet is to use a 7010. The i7-3770 is maybe 5% slower than the 4770, but you're getting a PCIe x16 slot on top, which opens the door back up to LP versions of the RX 550, GTX 1050, RX 560, GTX 1050 Ti, even the GTX 1650 if you've got more dollars than sense.

 

If you can go with a 9020 mini-tower instead, do so. You'll need an adapter if you want to replace the PSU with something that can handle a better GPU, but it's a worthy $3 investment for a system with so, so much better price to performance. For about what a new GT 1030 GDDR5 LP variant will cost you, you can get an RX 570 or GTX 1060 3GB, either one of which is significantly beefier.

 

27 minutes ago, NoahTheHyena said:

The 9020 is not a small form factor if you ask me. 

 

The SFF is the one on the right. The big guy on the left is a four-slot micro ATX mini-tower. How is the SFF not small form factor?

[Sup3rJD]

21 hours ago, aisle9 said:

 

The SFF is the one on the right. The big guy on the left is a four-slot micro ATX mini-tower. How is the SFF not small form factor?

The one I'm looking at getting is the one on the left. If that helps

[Mr. Budget]

On 9/26/2019 at 1:25 PM, Tristerin said:

and is super expensive compared to a regular 1050 ti.

Where do you get this from? I found a 1050 TI low profile for 50 bucks from a reliable provider.

[aisle9]

50 minutes ago, Sup3rJD said:

The one I'm looking at getting is the one on the left. If that helps

That's the MT, waaaaay different from the SFF. You've got some room to work with and fun to be had in there. Get yourself a low-cost, reliable PSU (the Corsair CX series is a good bet) and an RX 570 off of eBay or locally-sourced for $70-80 and you, my friend, have got yourself a winner.

6 minutes ago, Mr. Budget said:

Where do you get this from? I found a 1050 TI low profile for 50 bucks from a reliable provider.

Link? I'mma buy eight.

[Mr. Budget]

Just now, aisle9 said:

Link? I'mma buy eight.

Specific one I found went out of stock (went to get the link and just realized that, guess that's what happens when it's hella cheap) but I found a 90 buck alternative from a fairly competent seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GTX-1050Ti-Low-Profile-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-4GB-GDDR5-Low-Profile-Graphics-Car/283625116835?epid=20032166712&hash=item42095fd4a3:g:JCkAAOSwX~ZdjAej

[aSpoink]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Budget said:

Specific one I found went out of stock (went to get the link and just realized that, guess that's what happens when it's hella cheap) but I found a 90 buck alternative from a fairly competent seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GTX-1050Ti-Low-Profile-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-4GB-GDDR5-Low-Profile-Graphics-Car/283625116835?epid=20032166712&hash=item42095fd4a3:g:JCkAAOSwX~ZdjAej

Yeah buts that's an auction with 5 days left on it, its almost guaranteed to go up quite a bit before the auction ends.

[Mr. Budget]

1 minute ago, aSpoink said:

Yeah buts that's an auction with 5 days left on it, its almost guaranteed to go up quite a bit before the auction ends.

It is an auction, however not many people want a low profile card mainly for the reasons above (it's hot as hell)

[Fasauceome]

45 minutes ago, Mr. Budget said:

Specific one I found went out of stock (went to get the link and just realized that, guess that's what happens when it's hella cheap) but I found a 90 buck alternative from a fairly competent seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GTX-1050Ti-Low-Profile-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-4GB-GDDR5-Low-Profile-Graphics-Car/283625116835?epid=20032166712&hash=item42095fd4a3:g:JCkAAOSwX~ZdjAej

$90 for a 1050 ti is a bad deal. They usually go for $80 and even still an RX 570 can be had for as low as $70.

[Mr. Budget]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

$90 for a 1050 ti is a bad deal. They usually go for $80 and even still an RX 570 can be had for as low as $70.

For a low profile, it is a good deal based on other market prices. I still would never recommend it because I am not an absolute idiot, but if you absolutely needed a low profile card.

[aisle9]

5 hours ago, Mr. Budget said:

Specific one I found went out of stock (went to get the link and just realized that, guess that's what happens when it's hella cheap) but I found a 90 buck alternative from a fairly competent seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GTX-1050Ti-Low-Profile-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-4GB-GDDR5-Low-Profile-Graphics-Car/283625116835?epid=20032166712&hash=item42095fd4a3:g:JCkAAOSwX~ZdjAej

That's an auction with four days to go.  That price is not the final amount someone's willing to pay. What is the final amount? Glad you asked. I searched for sold listings on eBay and grabbed the five most recent sales using the query, "GTX 1050 Ti low profile". Here's what I came up with:

 

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Average selling price was just over $200, typical selling price was about $175. Now, again, what was that $50 link? Are you sure it wasn't an auction with five days left on it or a for parts/not working sale?