Supporting hardware for: Ryzen 2600 with B450 DS3H

[pkr]

I am planning to buy a Ryzen 2600 with B450 DS3H. I wanted this system for office use (my requirements are not gaming) and in mid range. Now I have a few doubts

1. Do I need to buy a additional graphic card for this combination for non gaming use?
2. If I can extend my budget a little, would you suggest me another motherboard? or another motherboard in the same range? A  few suggested me  MSI B450M PRO-VDH Plus.
3. Out of many RAM options, which RAM will support this motherboard? And how can I get this information from motherboard details? B450 DS3H board link

Thank you

[Gegger]

yes you need a discrete GPU, only ryzen CPUs with iGPU are the g suffix ones

 

another mobo? you would be fine with that, but msi tomahawk is decent

[GoldenLag]

11 minutes ago, pkr said:

B450 DS3H

swap for B450 Pro4

11 minutes ago, pkr said:

Do I need to buy a additional graphic card for this combination for non gaming use?

that CPU does not have integrated graphics, so yes you will need a GPU of sorts for non-gaming use. 

12 minutes ago, pkr said:

Out of many RAM options, which RAM will support this motherboard? And how can I get this information from motherboard details?

you can check on the QVL, but you can expect almost any Ramstick to work up to their rated speed. providing their rated speed is at or below 3200mhz. (exception is when running like 64GB of Ram)

[LukeSavenije]

13 minutes ago, pkr said:

Do I need to buy a additional graphic card for this combination for non gaming use?

yes, the 2600 doesn't have an onboard gpu

 

14 minutes ago, pkr said:

MSI B450M PRO-VDH Plus.

not a huge difference, especially if what you're doing is office work

 

6 minutes ago, Gegger said:

msi tomahawk is decent

but honestly completely unnecessary

[pkr]

7 minutes ago, Gegger said:

yes you need a discrete GPU, only ryzen CPUs with iGPU are the g suffix ones

 

another mobo? you would be fine with that, but msi tomahawk is decent

thanks @Gegger, are there motherboards which have inbuilt graphic cards? so that I do not have to buy an GPU 

[Gegger]

Just now, pkr said:

thanks @Gegger, are there motherboards which have inbuilt graphic cards? so that I do not have to buy an GPU 

that would be from a long time ago, so no

[Vejnemojnen]

Just now, pkr said:

thanks @Gegger, are there motherboards which have inbuilt graphic cards? so that I do not have to buy an GPU 

Get 2400G then. Motherboards do not have IGP since ages. Either go for Intel, if you are after a six-core cpu with IGP, or get 2400G (4c8t)

[ckinfos]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

swap for B450 Pro4

that CPU does not have integrated graphics, so yes you will need a GPU of sorts for non-gaming use. 

you can check on the QVL, but you can expect almost any Ramstick to work up to their rated speed. providing their rated speed is at or below 3200mhz. (exception is when running like 64GB of Ram)

I aggree and i am just adding a note to your answer: all DDR4 memories are actually Overclocked at speeds higher than 2133mhz so look at the specifications of the motherboard and look for 3200(if it has OC) next to it then buy a memory DDR4 module that is less than 3200mhz for no problems at all.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, pkr said:

thanks @Gegger, are there motherboards which have inbuilt graphic cards? so that I do not have to buy an GPU 

i recall some asrock rack ones do, but those come at like 200+ dollars. I'd just get a gt210 or something along those lines

[GoldenLag]

13 minutes ago, ckinfos said:

I aggree and i am just adding a note to your answer: all DDR4 memories are actually Overclocked at speeds higher than 2133mhz so look at the specifications of the motherboard

yes, but it hasnt been called overclocking for ages as its XMP/DOCP. it either sets it at boot or it will be a switch in the BIOS. 

13 minutes ago, ckinfos said:

look for 3200(if it has OC) next to it then buy a memory DDR4 module that is less than 3200mhz for no problems at all.

um, unless its in the QVL, then its not guaranteed to work, but at this point. 3200mhz isnt fast memmory. anymore. and Zen+ top out at around 3466mhz-3600mhz in capable speeds due to the IMC, not the memmory controller.  motherboard. 

 

the thing they write next to their motherboard that isnt in the QVL that is marked with OC is just marketing

 

when reffering to overclocking memmory its usually manually overclocking with timings, subtimings speed, or with Zen 2, tuning IF clock. 

Edited September 25, 2019 by GoldenLag
i wrote wrong

[GoldenLag]

9 minutes ago, pkr said:

thanks @Gegger, are there motherboards which have inbuilt graphic cards? so that I do not have to buy an GPU 

i know Serverboards do. but they cost more than your CPU and mobo combined for just the board. 

[GoldenLag]

14 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

but honestly completely unnecessary

only thing i would do it just avoid the ds3h. there are other options that are better around the same price, and the ds3h isnt exactly the most reliable thing if my (biased) issue counting is accurate. it might only be me. 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

and the ds3h isnt exactly the most reliable thing i

it's the same vrm as half of the gigabyte's lineup, just with worse heatsinks. only reason I'd change it would be if something like a pro4 is cheaper

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it's the same vrm as half of the gigabyte's lineup, just with worse heatsinks. only reason I'd change it would be if something like a pro4 is cheaper

the VRM is fine, heatsink is "eh". thats not why i avoid suggesting it. its just the board that shows up the most often when there are troubleshooting issues. 

[pkr]

41 minutes ago, pkr said:

I am planning to buy a Ryzen 2600 with B450 DS3H. I wanted this system for office use (my requirements are not gaming) and in mid range. Now I have a few doubts

1. Do I need to buy a additional graphic card for this combination for non gaming use?
2. If I can extend my budget a little, would you suggest me another motherboard? or another motherboard in the same range? A  few suggested me  MSI B450M PRO-VDH Plus.
3. Out of many RAM options, which RAM will support this motherboard? And how can I get this information from motherboard details? B450 DS3H board link

Thank you

Dear all: thank you for the insight. I have realized that either I should get a GPU or should prefer another processor, one with suffix "G".

 

Do you have suggestions for a mobo-GPU combo OR processor-mobo-GPU combo for a mid range system?

[LukeSavenije]

36 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

heatsink is "eh".

good enough for a 2600 really

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

good enough for a 2600 really

it really is. its why i qualitfy it as "eh". which means its okay, but could be better. it is a heatsink at least, which is more effort than some put into it.