Best CPU fan + MOBO + PSU + RAM for a quiet 3900x at stock speeds? (no liquid cooling)

[Windows95]

Which ones should I buy? It must fit on my fraktal r4. I just want to edit videos smoothly and quitetly. Im on a 10 year old q6600 and im going insane. The 3900x has been out for a while so its time to update.

 

Anything I should need to know or do when I boot? like updates wise.

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

 

What's your total budget for the upgrades?

Just get a Scythe Fuma 2 most likely. Just a cheap dual tower cooler.

[Windows95]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What's your total budget for the upgrades?

Just get a Scythe Fuma 2 most likely. Just a cheap dual tower cooler.

I was told Noctua 15 one is one of the quietest

 

Budget 2000€ ideally way less than that since im keeping my current gpu for now

[Streetguru]

37 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

 

What's your current GPU and monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Noctua is good but a Fuma 2 is likely good enough.

[Windows95]

6 hours ago, Streetguru said:

What's your current GPU and monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Noctua is good but a Fuma 2 is likely good enough.

anyone has db and temp charts? I want the best not good enough

 

I have a HD7850 and 1080p 144hz

 

I know card is old but im going to wait until RTX are more affordable

[Streetguru]

51 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

 

What country? you can very easily get an RX 5700 for your budget

As well an R7 3700X is likely perfectly fine.

[Windows95]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

What country? you can very easily get an RX 5700 for your budget

As well an R7 3700X is likely perfectly fine.

Nahh mate im not interested in a new GPU right now. Also i want to learn deepfaking and I heard CUDA is best there so I will go for rtx next year or so.

 

IPlease give me a PSU+ram+cpu fan+mobo combo for a quiet 3900x setup

 

If I buy something like 2070 super next year or so when its cheaper, the PSU must be able to deal with that

[Windows95]

please tell me

 

im on a q6600 goints nuts editing at 2 fps

[4RT1LL3RY]

With the issues even finding a 3900x in stock, the 3700x is usually the best choice currently.

 

14 hours ago, Windows95 said:

I was told Noctua 15 one is one of the quietest

 

Budget 2000€ ideally way less than that since im keeping my current gpu for now

I also have a Scythe Fuma 2 and it is quiet while still keeping a 3700x with PBO on and IF clock at 1800mhz at 61°C on the hottest core, +40°C over ambient, that is with the usual -0.1 V offset because 1.5V stock is insane Asus.

 

The only audible noise comes from my GTX1080 Strix.  Even at max fan speed the Fuma 2 is still quite quiet.  And while Noctua may be the gold standard, I consider Scythe to be 95% as good for 50% the price.  And you don't have to deal with the beige and brown.

 

The Scythe Ninja 5 does cool better and is 1 db quieter, but the Fuma 2 has better ram clearance, aka it doesn't interfere at all.  Look at the result for the Fuma Rev B to get an idea of the Fuma 2. CPU Cooler Reviews on a 6700k  

 

This is my recent build minus gpu, ssd, and case.  You can go for cheaper memory just fine but for better performance from Ryzen you want tight ram timings and I don't care for RGB ram. I am running it in a Cooler Master H500m with the mesh front.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$329.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$194.79 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$164.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$106.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$875.75
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$855.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-22 12:32 EDT-0400

 

Make sure you have your voltage settings tuned because stock ones will make you run hot, stock settings in bios had my idle temps in the UEFI at 41°C due to having core voltage of 1.5V and after adjusting core voltage that to AMDs listed value it gave normal 30°C idle temps.

[Streetguru]

7 hours ago, Windows95 said:

Nahh mate im not interested in a new GPU right now. Also i want to learn deepfaking and I heard CUDA is best there so I will go for rtx next year or so.

 

IPlease give me a PSU+ram+cpu fan+mobo combo for a quiet 3900x setup

 

If I buy something like 2070 super next year or so when its cheaper, the PSU must be able to deal with that

Well maybe that does max out your budget.

There is openCL deep fake stuff as well.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9VffrV
 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€529.00 @ ARLT)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€52.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€207.89 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.47 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €953.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-22 21:26 CEST+0200

[Windows95]

i dont care about how things look because my case is sealed and completely black

 

thanks for input

[Windows95]

23 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Well maybe that does max out your budget.

There is openCL deep fake stuff as well.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9VffrV
 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€529.00 @ ARLT)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€52.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€207.89 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.47 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €953.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-22 21:26 CEST+0200

I would like to buy 32 GB of ram in two 16 GB slots for future expansion possibilities. Since I edit a lot of video i think extra 16 gigs cant hurt. Can you find me the best ram to buy here for 3900x?

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/buscar/?query=ram#pg-0&or-search&fm-7

 

I will probably but it all on this shop because I dont want to mix parts buying in different shops so I get everything in a single package.

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

I would like to buy 32 GB of ram in two 16 GB slots for future expansion possibilities. Since I edit a lot of video i think extra 16 gigs cant hurt. Can you find me the best ram to buy here for 3900x?

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/buscar/?query=ram#pg-0&or-search&fm-7

 

I will probably but it all on this shop because I dont want to mix parts buying in different shops so I get everything in a single package.

I don't use more than 16gbs of RAM doing 4k video editing.

You can just buy the same kit of memory later on, it's going to be harder to get 32GBs running at higher speeds, so I'd only get it if it's really needed, otherwise having 3200mhz or 3600mhz RAM on normal Ryzen is likely better for performance.

Just check the QVL or memory support list for a given motherboard.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-doc


There's also this Threadripper promotion, that would give you quad channel memory support and more PCI-e lanes for SSDs/video cards, but I'm not sure how much use that is with a slower 1920X or something, which is maybe 15-20% slower than the 3900X.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/hasta-330-cashback-con-placa-asus-ryzen-cpu

[Windows95]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I don't use more than 16gbs of RAM doing 4k video editing.

You can just buy the same kit of memory later on, it's going to be harder to get 32GBs running at higher speeds, so I'd only get it if it's really needed, otherwise having 3200mhz or 3600mhz RAM on normal Ryzen is likely better for performance.

Just check the QVL or memory support list for a given motherboard.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-doc


There's also this Threadripper promotion, that would give you quad channel memory support and more PCI-e lanes for SSDs/video cards, but I'm not sure how much use that is with a slower 1920X or something, which is maybe 15-20% slower than the 3900X.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/hasta-330-cashback-con-placa-asus-ryzen-cpu

I want a 3900x, I dont want to start going insane researching other CPUs now.

Can you recommend me a MOBO which has NO wifi and bluetoth? I hate wireless crap on desktops. The one you mentioned is free of that?

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/sp#sp

 

About 32 gb of ram, what do you reckon will be a good use case for that?

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

 

The only time I've ever gone over 16Gbs of RAM is doing 7zip compression with unrealistic settings.

[Windows95]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The only time I've ever gone over 16Gbs of RAM is doing 7zip compression with unrealistic settings.

what about future VR headsets?

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

what about future VR headsets?

That's just the same as games which don't even go over 8GBs most of the time.

[Windows95]

16 hours ago, Streetguru said:

I don't use more than 16gbs of RAM doing 4k video editing.

You can just buy the same kit of memory later on, it's going to be harder to get 32GBs running at higher speeds, so I'd only get it if it's really needed, otherwise having 3200mhz or 3600mhz RAM on normal Ryzen is likely better for performance.

Just check the QVL or memory support list for a given motherboard.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-doc


There's also this Threadripper promotion, that would give you quad channel memory support and more PCI-e lanes for SSDs/video cards, but I'm not sure how much use that is with a slower 1920X or something, which is maybe 15-20% slower than the 3900X.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/hasta-330-cashback-con-placa-asus-ryzen-cpu

whats more important

 

more mhz, or less latency?

 

this one seemed like the best deal but its sold out:

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/gskill-trident-z-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-16gb-2x8gb-cl14

 

cl14 for this price... i cant find it anywhere, did it go up in price?

 

[Streetguru]

5 hours ago, Windows95 said:

whats more important

 

more mhz, or less latency?

 

this one seemed like the best deal but its sold out:

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/gskill-trident-z-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-16gb-2x8gb-cl14

 

cl14 for this price... i cant find it anywhere, did it go up in price?

 

3200mhz CL14 is more for overclocking

 

a 3200mhz CL 16 memory kit will be pretty close in performance outside of that as shown in the video.

 

Just get 2 of these though, I can't find a straight 16GB kit for the same price, shouldn't matter if you buy 2 separate sticks if they're the same.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/hyperx-predator-rgb-ddr4-3200-mhz-8gb-cl16
Or there's a 32GB kit for a bit more than the CL14 kit.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-black-32gb-ddr4-3200mhz-pc-25600-2x16gb-cl16


 

 

[4RT1LL3RY]

5 hours ago, Windows95 said:

whats more important

 

more mhz, or less latency?

 

this one seemed like the best deal but its sold out:

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/gskill-trident-z-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-16gb-2x8gb-cl14

 

cl14 for this price... i cant find it anywhere, did it go up in price?

 

I have the DDR4 3600-CL15 version of that ram it works great for me, the actual timing is slightly better than 3200cl14.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yCVBD3/gskill-tridentz-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c15d-16gtz

 

Its important to remember that latency isn't just the CL number.  Its a relationship between the speed and timings. 

DDR4-6000 with CL32 is equal to DDR4-3000 with CL16 in terms of actual latency. 

3200 CL14 is 8.75ns of latency, 3600 CL16 is 8.89ns, 3600 CL15 is 8.33ns

[Windows95]

On 9/24/2019 at 7:01 PM, Streetguru said:

3200mhz CL14 is more for overclocking

 

a 3200mhz CL 16 memory kit will be pretty close in performance outside of that as shown in the video.

 

Just get 2 of these though, I can't find a straight 16GB kit for the same price, shouldn't matter if you buy 2 separate sticks if they're the same.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/hyperx-predator-rgb-ddr4-3200-mhz-8gb-cl16
Or there's a 32GB kit for a bit more than the CL14 kit.
https://www.pccomponentes.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-black-32gb-ddr4-3200mhz-pc-25600-2x16gb-cl16


 

 

K I will just buy this one:

 

https://www.pccomponentes.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-black-32gb-ddr4-3200mhz-pc-25600-2x16gb-cl16

 

what about PSU and CPU fan?

 

 

any db readings of scythe vs noctua 15? I really want a silent computer, but no liquid bs

[Windows95]

So which is it? anyone? not interested in oc or liquid, must be a FAN.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Windows95

[5x5]

get a Dark Rock Pro 4 if you want silent air cooling

[Guest]

I have the Noctua NH-U12A on my 3900X and it does a fantastic job and is very quiet.

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https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15-se-am4

 

The Noctua NH-D15 is near silent, if I recall it trades blows with the Dark Rock Pro 4. Get whatever one is cheaper in your region.

 

Works well on my 3900x at least.