Gigabyte Radeon RX 470 G1 Gaming 4GB

[radcustom]

Is the Gigabyte Radeon RX 470 G1 Gaming 4GB for £70 a good price (used ofc) or am I paying too much? NOTE the price is in GREAT BRITISH POUNDS as I am British. Thanks.

Going from a 7870 which died on me, is this a good improvement over that card?

[Stormseeker9]

I’m finding RX570’s for the same price range as the 480 - so not necessarily a good price, but also not a bad price 

[radcustom]

1 minute ago, Genwyn said:

You're the guy from yesterday with an ivy bridge system with a dead 7870 right?

Id try and talk them down to 60. I'm not too familiar with used gpu prices on bong island but that's a decent price if it's in good condition.

 

It's performance should actually be pretty similar. 7870 was rebranded to the R9 280x and that's pretty much at RX 470 level. It'll be a little better overall but don't expect anything too crazy out of it.

For the goal of 1080p gaming you mentioned yesterday it's a good fit.

Yes that's me. Seeing as I have a 3570k I thought anything too powerful would bottleneck it. But then I am reading on other forums that CPU's haven't become that much better (this was a post from 2017) so it's ok to get a more powerful GPU.

That being said I am planning on selling this PC in a few months.

gpu.userbenchmark.com (which is currently not working, site seems to be down) says the RX 470 is 57% more powerful than my 7870.... is that not true then?

[radcustom]

22 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I’m finding 570’s for the same price 

BUY IT NOW on eBay only. Not auction.

Still getting £70 for a 570? Used. UK only.

[Stormseeker9]

Just now, radcustom said:

BUT IT NOW on eBay only. Not auction.

Still getting £70 for a 570? Used. UK only.

Was comparing Dutch prices to UK - they similar tho as the rate is always close 5-10%.

 

so it has to be a buy it now item on eBay? No biddings / other websites ?

[radcustom]

Just now, Stormseeker9 said:

Was comparing Dutch prices to UK - they similar tho as the rate is always close 5-10%.

 

so it has to be a buy it now item on eBay? No biddings / other websites ?

What other sites are you using? Ideally ebay as I have an account and have spent the past 12 hours today looking on ebay and facebook and learning about the many many different GPU's using gpu benchmark and reviews. It's a time consuming process when you know so little about GPU's.

 

Yeah no bidding If you are seeing £70 at bid that's only the price it's at right now. It WILL go up in the last few hours/minutes of bidding.

[radcustom]

1 minute ago, Genwyn said:

Userbenchmark generally isn't recommended, it's percentage ratings are based off of a lot more than performance and can be easily swayed either direction with different system configurations.

The best comparison would be looking for the endless plethora of GTA V and CSGO benchmarks to see how each combo does in a gpu and CPU intensive game. 

The 470 should be only slightly better. 

 

And yeah, pretty much anything 2nd gen sandy bridge clear through 7th gen Kaby lake is still fine for most people. 4 cores and decent single threaded performance, it'll still play modern games.

In the last few years higher core count processors have become the norm and it's starting to kick off again though.

Should I spend more and get a more powerful GPU?
What do you recommend for my setup:

 

- Core i5 3570k
- GA-Z77X-D3H -- REV 1.0

- Samsung Green 8GB DDR3 C11 1600Mhz 30nm

- Corsair TX 650W

[radcustom]

28 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Userbenchmark generally isn't recommended, it's percentage ratings are based off of a lot more than performance and can be easily swayed either direction with different system configurations.

The best comparison would be looking for the endless plethora of GTA V and CSGO benchmarks to see how each combo does in a gpu and CPU intensive game. 

The 470 should be only slightly better. 

 

And yeah, pretty much anything 2nd gen sandy bridge clear through 7th gen Kaby lake is still fine for most people. 4 cores and decent single threaded performance, it'll still play modern games.

In the last few years higher core count processors have become the norm and it's starting to kick off again though.

Would it be worth buying this; Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti G1 6GB Gaming Graphics Card - Used great condition
£180 Buy It Now.

 

Then again that needs a beefy PSU. Would my PSU handle it?

 

I would sell it in a few months probs.

 

LOL all this started from me getting subnautica yesterday and it being unplayable on my ancient GTS 8800 640MB, so I thought, I wonder if I can get a GPU to use for a few months under £50 so I can play this game and some other games I have yet to discover and play (just discovered subnautical yesterday) that are pre 2017 that would run on an older card.

And now here I am looking at a £180 GPU. Lol

[Stormseeker9]

Is your psu a TXm? If so perfectly fine too keep.

 

 

[radcustom]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Is your psu a TXm? If so perfectly fine too keep.

 

 

No. Just TX with a W at the end. photo attached.

[radcustom]

How reliable is this site?
https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i5-3570K/Radeon_RX_580/0dm0Ygf2/

[radcustom]

2 hours ago, Genwyn said:

Userbenchmark generally isn't recommended, it's percentage ratings are based off of a lot more than performance and can be easily swayed either direction with different system configurations.

The best comparison would be looking for the endless plethora of GTA V and CSGO benchmarks to see how each combo does in a gpu and CPU intensive game. 

The 470 should be only slightly better. 

 

And yeah, pretty much anything 2nd gen sandy bridge clear through 7th gen Kaby lake is still fine for most people. 4 cores and decent single threaded performance, it'll still play modern games.

In the last few years higher core count processors have become the norm and it's starting to kick off again though.

''Oh yes, sorry. Sometimes after I open my notifications if it's after the first 3 I don't see it always.

 

The 470 is a good option. Modern, lower power requirement, decent price.

A 980ti would be good as well and quite a bit more powerful but for the overall investment into the system a 180 britbux gpu really isn't worth it. A 470 will accomplish the same goal of a decent 1080p machine.''

Kinda contradicts. 470 only slightly better then today it is a good fit?

What about a RX 580 or RX 570?

 

AND
 

How true is this:
Posted November 18, 2018

  On 11/18/2018 at 10:41 AM, asus killer said:

  On 11/18/2018 at 10:41 AM, asus killer said:

people with a 2080ti probably have less stress on the CPU because they play in 4k. With a better card you go from high to ultra and actually decrease fps. It depends on a lots of things, but usually it's the other way around, better card, less cpu loads.

Playing at 4k also puts more stress on the GPU, just like running a lower end graphics card. CPU load is based on framerates. 

 

Also it's super not better card less CPU load. Better card = higher framerate = higher CPU load. You can see this because when you get better GPUs you have to increase settings and resolution to  take load off of the CPU. At the same settings and resolution, a better card will put more strain on the CPU as it tries to keep up with the GPU. So for example when we're tlaking about RX 580 vs RX 570 with a 3570, both cards are aimed at 1080p high/ultra settings. However the RX 580 is more likely to run above 60fps, which the 3570 is incapable of doing, so the 3570 will chug and cause stuttering. However the RX 570 will likely sit more around 50-60fps which is more comfortable for the 3570, making the GPU the bottleneck and avoiding the stutter associated with CPU bottlenecks. 

 

I had this exact experience going from my 780ti to my 1080 with a 3570k.

[radcustom]

5 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

The 470 would still be a good fit, for the goal in mind of 1080p gaming. A 7870 is still good for 1080p gaming honestly, it's just that the 470 draws significantly less power and is much cooler thermally.

 

What about the RX 570 or 580?

[radcustom]

1 minute ago, Genwyn said:

Both would also be very good choices, a 580 would be good for 1440p as well and likely not cost too much more.

a 470, 570, 580, will all do the job and pair well

its just a matter of which are the better deals

What about that post I copy and pasted from another thread on this site from 2018?

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, radcustom said:

How reliable is this site?
https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i5-3570K/Radeon_RX_580/0dm0Ygf2/

very unreliable.

 

more accurate performance figures can be found from online reviewers, generally that website doesn't manage to quantify what's important for gaming performance.

[radcustom]

How true is this:
Posted November 18, 2018

  On 11/18/2018 at 10:41 AM, asus killer said:

  On 11/18/2018 at 10:41 AM, asus killer said:

  On 11/18/2018 at 10:41 AM, asus killer said:

people with a 2080ti probably have less stress on the CPU because they play in 4k. With a better card you go from high to ultra and actually decrease fps. It depends on a lots of things, but usually it's the other way around, better card, less cpu loads.

Playing at 4k also puts more stress on the GPU, just like running a lower end graphics card. CPU load is based on framerates. 

 

Also it's super not better card less CPU load. Better card = higher framerate = higher CPU load. You can see this because when you get better GPUs you have to increase settings and resolution to  take load off of the CPU. At the same settings and resolution, a better card will put more strain on the CPU as it tries to keep up with the GPU. So for example when we're tlaking about RX 580 vs RX 570 with a 3570, both cards are aimed at 1080p high/ultra settings. However the RX 580 is more likely to run above 60fps, which the 3570 is incapable of doing, so the 3570 will chug and cause stuttering. However the RX 570 will likely sit more around 50-60fps which is more comfortable for the 3570, making the GPU the bottleneck and avoiding the stutter associated with CPU bottlenecks. 

 

I had this exact experience going from my 780ti to my 1080 with a 3570k.

[radcustom]

Also I have been told that older AMD cards run hot so instead to get a Nvidia. Anyone got any recommendations? Ideally I want to spend £85 or less than. I want it to be more powerful than my 7870. When I played COD WWII with the 7870 the vram really limited what settings I could use. And the 7870 ran loud all the time when gaming as I guess it was 100% load all the time and perhaps it's true that older AMD gpu's run hotter.

Even though it's only temporary, I still want a good replacement card in the meantime.

Thanks

[horsemama1956]

On 9/21/2019 at 11:54 AM, Genwyn said:

You're the guy from yesterday with an ivy bridge system with a dead 7870 right?

Id try and talk them down to 60. I'm not too familiar with used gpu prices on bong island but that's a decent price if it's in good condition.

 

It's performance should actually be pretty similar. 7870 was rebranded to the R9 280x and that's pretty much at RX 470 level. It'll be a little better overall but don't expect anything too crazy out of it.

For the goal of 1080p gaming you mentioned yesterday it's a good fit.

I think you're confusing the 7870 and 7970? An RX 470 is significantly more powerful than a 7870. 

 

7870 = 270/270x

7970 = 280x/380x

[radcustom]

12 hours ago, horsemama1956 said:

I think you're confusing the 7870 and 7970? An RX 470 is significantly more powerful than a 7870. 

 

7870 = 270/270x

7970 = 280x/380x

This is EXACTLY what I was just about to post to that guy. I was gonna say how TF is a RX 470, a mid range card from 2016, the same in power as a 7870 mid range card from 2012?!!?!?!

Are you saying that a 280x/380x is as powerful as a rx 470?

[SkilledRebuilds]

7870 doesn't equal a 280x, a 7970 does.

 

RX 470 = GTX970 across many titles it goes back and forth...

[radcustom]

4 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

7870 doesn't equal a 280x, a 7970 does.

 

RX 470 = GTX970 across many titles it goes back and forth...

Why you bringing nvidia cards into this?

''Are you saying that a 280x/380x is as powerful as a rx 470?''

[radcustom]

Oh wait turns out the 7870 was a HIGH END card back in 2012.

Update: Just won an ebay auction for this:

MSI Radeon RX 570 4GB Gaming X £86 including delivery. What do you all think?

 

[SkilledRebuilds]

5 hours ago, radcustom said:

Why you bringing nvidia cards into this?

''Are you saying that a 280x/380x is as powerful as a rx 470?''

It's like you didn't read it at all...

That's what I was correcting..

 

There was a comparison made .wrongly.

I corrected it, just happened to mention another company to do so.

 

Anyways, the RX570 is solid for so many titles, enjoy.