What if the iphone 11 had an OLED

[DarkDragon2K04]

What if the iphone 11 had an OLED display for the same $700 price. Like $200 Samsung a series phones have OLEDs. I do think if it had an OLED it wouldn't be the best valued phone but it would be the most amazing choice if you really need an iphone and it has the extra colors.

[Fasauceome]

their non oled "liquid retina" display already looks really good, you'd be hard pressed to see the difference

[Zando_]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

their non oled "liquid retina" display already looks really good, you'd be hard pressed to see the difference

Apple's IPS displays (I think they get them from Samsung) have always been stellar, even the iPhone 4 still looks solid (blacks aren't quite as good though and IMO iOS 7 hasn't aged too well, iOS 6 looks better on a 4/4S). 

[DarkDragon2K04]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

their non oled "liquid retina" display already looks really good, you'd be hard pressed to see the difference

But there are still benefits to OLED and for such a price you deserve OLED tech

[Zando_]

Just now, DarkDragon2K04 said:

But there are still benefits to OLED and for such a price you deserve OLED tech

What are the benefits? Lower power consumption and possibly deeper blacks is it AFAIK. For that you get the chance of nasty burn in (not too common on newer phones I think, but still a thing that can happen to OLEDs). 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

But there are still benefits to OLED and for such a price you deserve OLED tech

benefits such as?

 

have you used the iPhone 11 yet? the screen might surpass your expectations.

[DarkDragon2K04]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

benefits such as?

 

have you used the iPhone 11 yet? the screen might surpass your expectations.

I understand the LCD is amazing on the xr but then OLED burning rarely happens on phones these days. OLED does have better HDR, which is really good for content consumption

[Fasauceome]

Just now, DarkDragon2K04 said:

OLED does have better HDR, which is really good for content consumption

And how much better is HDR on an OLED display than something like an iPhone X or 11?

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

benefits such as?

 

have you used the iPhone 11 yet? the screen might surpass your expectations.

It's the same as the "ReEeE iPhOnE Xr LeSs ThAn 1080p" thing. The screen looks fine, it's still 326ppi, and the ppi count is what matters on a phone. They've been 326ppi since the iPhone 4, and iPads are around 264ppi. Haven't seen people complaining the screens looked low-res at all, they're crispy af. The 6 plus was the first iPhone to have a 1080p screen, that pushed to 401ppi but the difference between 401ppi and 326ppi isn't that massive, you already can't distinguish pixels on the lower res screen (that's the whole "Retina" thing, screens with a high enough ppi that you can't distinguish pixels at a normal viewing distance). 
 

4 minutes ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

I understand the LCD is amazing on the xr but then OLED burning rarely happens on phones these days. OLED does have better HDR, which is really good for content consumption

My 4K IPS TV does the HDR thingy with Netflix just fine, I'm not seeing a massive difference in my content consumption because it has HDR though, doubt better HDR is gonna blow my mind. 
 

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

And how much better is HDR on an OLED display than something like an iPhone X or 11?

^^^ You mentioned $200 Samsung phones with OLEDs in your OP, betcha those are a shittier panel than the IPS one Apple uses in their phones (again, also a Samsung panel lol, just a much higher quality one). 

EDIT: iPhone X is an OLED screen though, but I haven't seen a massive difference between my 458ppi OLED and the 401ppi IPS display on my 6 Plus. True Tone makes more of a difference than the panel tech, only thing the X really does better is it might kinda pop more, maybe? And it has deeper blacks if I have anything that's full jet black, but that's barely noticeable. 

[DarkDragon2K04]

2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

It's the same as the "ReEeE iPhOnE Xr LeSs ThAn 1080p" thing. The screen looks fine, it's still 326ppi, and the ppi count is what matters on a phone. They've been 326ppi since the iPhone 4, and iPads are around 264ppi. Haven't seen people complaining the screens looked low-res at all, they're crispy af. The 6 plus was the first iPhone to have a 1080p screen, that pushed to 401ppi but the difference between 401ppi and 326ppi isn't that massive, you already can't distinguish pixels on the lower res screen (that's the whole "Retina" thing, screens with a high enough ppi that you can't distinguish pixels at a normal viewing distance). 
 

My 4K IPS TV does the HDR thingy with Netflix just fine, I'm not seeing a massive difference in my content consumption because it has HDR though, doubt better HDR is gonna blow my mind. 
 

^^^ You mentioned $200 Samsung phones with OLEDs in your OP, betcha those are a shittier panel than the IPS one Apple uses in their phones (again, also a Samsung panel lol, just a much higher quality one). 

EDIT: iPhone X is an OLED screen though, but I haven't seen a massive difference between my 458ppi OLED and the 401ppi IPS display on my 6 Plus. True Tone makes more of a difference than the panel tech, only thing the X really does better is it might kinda pop more, maybe? And it has deeper blacks if I have anything that's full jet black, but that's barely noticeable. 

You guys are just saying this because you MIGHT be apple fanboys because other companies have moved to OLED. The premium smartphone market has moved to OLED, the medium market range is also moving to OLED. Come on this doesn't even have up to 1080p

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

You guys are just saying this because you MIGHT be apple fanboys because other companies have moved to OLED. The premium smartphone market has moved to OLED, the medium market range is also moving to OLED.

I'm on an iPhone X with OLED, I had an S6 with OLED, I was looking at an Essential Phone with OLED, a OnePlus 6T with OLED, a Samsung S8/S9 with OLED, but ended up deciding on the iPhone because I liked iOS better. 

I've handled many phones with OLED and many with IPS, I can tell you Apple's IPS panels aren't much behind most OLED panels, there's slightly less noticeable contrast and slightly lighter blacks, but that's it. 

Also lmao Apple fanboy, I use what works for me and I just happen to like how iOS and macOS work. I'm still looking at getting an Android to tinker with, and I run Windows 10 on all my PCs at home, have dabbled a bit in Linux as well. 

Also also lmao the panels Apple uses are from Samsung, so I'm telling you high quality Samsung IPS panels are better than lower quality Samsung OLED panels, and not much behind high quality Samsung OLED panels. 

[Zodiark1593]

I've no complaints about the IPS panels Apple is using. Even though it is a hair under 1080P, compared to my own device (against the XR), it looks quite a bit sharper, and colors and contrast are worlds better.

 

Longevity is also a downside with OLED. While burn-in isn't terribly common, OLEDs can still exhibit color shifts over time as the blue diodes wear down. My next device I plan to keep for 4+ years (will probably pull the trigger next year), so IPS (or MicroLED, if it exists by then) is pretty much a prerequisite. What I want from Apple by their next iteration is to nuke the notch, give me a 120+hz display, and throw in a 4 Ah battery. 

[DarkDragon2K04]

15 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

I've no complaints about the IPS panels Apple is using. Even though it is a hair under 1080P, compared to my own device (against the XR), it looks quite a bit sharper, and colors and contrast are worlds better.

 

Longevity is also a downside with OLED. While burn-in isn't terribly common, OLEDs can still exhibit color shifts over time as the blue diodes wear down. My next device I plan to keep for 4+ years (will probably pull the trigger next year), so IPS (or MicroLED, if it exists by then) is pretty much a prerequisite. What I want from Apple by their next iteration is to nuke the notch, give me a 120+hz display, and throw in a 4 Ah battery. 

OK for longevity the a good, sharp proper IPS LCD is a safe choice I feel should be taken but under 1080p is just not what you should be giving out to people mostly from a brand like apple that is known for loving things that are aesthetically pleasing and lovable by the eyes. If this thing was at least 1080p I would see it as a better choice than the 11 pro standards mostly because I find switching a phone every one, two or even maybe three years isn't just so smart

[Zando_]

13 minutes ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

OK for longevity the a good, sharp proper IPS LCD is a safe choice I feel should be taken but under 1080p is just not what you should be giving out to people mostly from a brand like apple that is known for loving things that are aesthetically pleasing and lovable by the eyes. If this thing was at least 1080p I would see it as a better choice than the 11 pro standards mostly because I find switching a phone every one, two or even maybe three years isn't just so smart

Again, fuck resolution. Your eyes don't see in resolution. You'll notice a difference in ppi, if a resolution is high enough that you can't tell individual pixels apart at a normal viewing distance, why does it matter that the overall resolution is below some arbitrary number you decided fits your aesthetic on a paper spec sheet? 

Also lower res screens eat less battery and make your phone snappier, everything from games to animations in and out of apps and menus renders easier on a lower resolution, both letting your phone do that smoother and not making it work as hard. 

I've seen and used the XR, the 326ppi sub-1080p screen doesn't look any worse than my 458ppi X that (IIRC) is over 1440p. You'll notice improvements in colors, brightness, and contrast on newer panels more than you will more pixels crammed in a space where you already can't tell them apart. Same with newer iPads, they're still IPS but the panels are gorgeous, those are at around 264ppi. 

[Zodiark1593]

1 hour ago, DarkDragon2K04 said:

OK for longevity the a good, sharp proper IPS LCD is a safe choice I feel should be taken but under 1080p is just not what you should be giving out to people mostly from a brand like apple that is known for loving things that are aesthetically pleasing and lovable by the eyes. If this thing was at least 1080p I would see it as a better choice than the 11 pro standards mostly because I find switching a phone every one, two or even maybe three years isn't just so smart

If MicroLED exists, I'd take a (moderately) sub-1080P panel for it.

 

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Also lower res screens eat less battery and make your phone snappier, everything from games to animations in and out of apps and menus renders easier on a lower resolution, both letting your phone do that smoother and not making it work as hard. 

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Outside gaming, rendering high resolutions isn't a very difficult task. iOS probably suffers more at higher resolutions than does Android as the shader effects in the UI are fairly heavy to begin with, and exhibit higher demands accordingly. Many Android phones don't tend to run demanding shaders in the UI, allowing higher resolutions to be utilized at minimal computational (and battery) cost.