Can the ram speed be a bottleneck.

[ThatFrizie]

Hello everyone,

 

So I was wondering can the ram speed of my G.SKILL Trident Z (3200mhz rated) (2x 8gb) cl16 only running at 2667 bottleneck my system?

 

As I'm running a RTX 2080 with an i7 8700 on a MSI h370 Gaming Pro Carbon and in alot of games am only seeing about 50% cpu and 65% gpu. (Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs) in 1080p

 

[Fasauceome]

reduced memory bandwidth can affect performance greatly, thought not typically in the way you're describing.

[Turtle Rig]

14 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

reduced memory bandwidth can affect performance greatly, thought not typically in the way you're describing.

Your going to lose like about 15fps but of course it matters what game as well.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your going to lose like about 15fps

I'm not aware of this being the case in any game.

 

Could you please provide some sources?

[ThatFrizie]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your going to lose like about 15fps but of course it matters what game as well.

Far Cry 4 for example, It's only at about 65% usage in 1080p on Ultra with about 90fps..

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'm not aware of this being the case in any game.

 

Could you please provide some sources?

I have watched some youtube videos comparing Lara Croft on 3 ram speeds 2400 2666Mhz and 3600Mhz  He lost lots of frames per second but the sweet spot is 3200Mhz that will pretty much give you all the card can dish out.  Going further to 4000Mhz wont make as much difference between you lose lateny with that.

[Olaf6541]

But... why are you running your 3200 rated ram at 2667?

[ThatFrizie]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

I have watched some youtube videos comparing Lara Croft on 3 ram speeds 2400 2666Mhz and 3600Mhz  He lost lots of frames per second but the sweet spot is 3200Mhz that will pretty much give you all the card can dish out.  Going further to 4000Mhz wont make as much difference between you lose lateny with that.

Ah as I'm unable to get 3200MHz XMP on my motherboard and as it locked to 2667MHz would it fix my performance issues mostly if I upgrade to a good Z390 board instead of my (MSI H370 Gaming Pro Carbon)

[Stormseeker9]

6 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your going to lose like about 15fps but of course it matters what game as well.

What is that based on?

[ThatFrizie]

1 minute ago, Olaf6541 said:

But... why are you running your 3200 rated ram at 2667?

Motherboard locks it to that.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

I have watched some youtube videos comparing Lara Croft on 3 ram speeds 2400 2666Mhz and 3600Mhz  He lost lots of frames per second but the sweet spot is 3200Mhz that will pretty much give you all the card can dish out.  Going further to 4000Mhz wont make as much difference between you lose lateny with that.

Could you provide any links to said YouTube videos?

 

I find it hard to believe that memory speed would have as much of an impact on anything from Intel versus something like first-gen Ryzen. We all know Ryzen loves fast memory in the 3200-3600Mhz range, but I can't imagine anything Intel caring that much to the point where you get double-digit FPS differences.

[Olaf6541]

2 minutes ago, ThatFrizie said:

Motherboard locks it to that.

Are you sure? Maybe we can help you getting it to work.

Is it blocking any specific settings?

Maybe can you take a picture of the relevant bios tab?

[Epimetheus]

5 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Could you provide any links to said YouTube videos?

 

I find it hard to believe that memory speed would have as much of an impact on anything from Intel versus something like first-gen Ryzen. We all know Ryzen loves fast memory in the 3200-3600Mhz range, but I can't imagine anything Intel caring that much to the point where you get double-digit FPS differences.

i've seen some hardware unboxed videos where he compares the ram speeds, but maximum i've seen is 10 fps more, while it tends to stay on 5 (with a 800mhz advantage)

[Turtle Rig]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Could you provide any links to said YouTube videos?

 

I find it hard to believe that memory speed would have as much of an impact on anything from Intel versus something like first-gen Ryzen. We all know Ryzen loves fast memory in the 3200-3600Mhz range, but I can't imagine anything Intel caring that much to the point where you get double-digit FPS differences.

I will try to find it.  It had the same scene 2666Mhz and 3200Mzh and 4000Mhz.  I don't know how ti came upon it,, I was watcing a LTT and it came.  Only way to find it now is hitting the right search engine words.. sighs.. sorry about that.  I should have posted it at that time which was just couple months old.  I mean the difference in smoothplay aall 3 played smooth.  If you threw me in front of machine and not tell me what RAM your using.. It is a highly possibe I wouldn't know.

[ThatFrizie]

2 minutes ago, Olaf6541 said:

Are you sure? Maybe we can help you getting it to work.

Is it blocking any specific settings?

Maybe can you take a picture of the relevant bios tab?

It's an MSI H370 Gaming Pro Carbon by the way, I've tried but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'Il be adding some images in a couple minutes.

[Olaf6541]

12 minutes ago, ThatFrizie said:

It's an MSI H370 Gaming Pro Carbon by the way, I've tried but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'Il be adding some images in a couple minutes.

I overlooked the fact that its not a z370 but a h370 board, and the msi website clearly states 2667mhz is the max supported speed.

Im afraid the chipset is locked this way, cant do much about it...

[ThatFrizie]

2 minutes ago, Olaf6541 said:

I overlooked the fact that its not a z370 but a h370 board, and the msi website clearly states 2667mhz is the max supported speed.

Im afraid the chipset is locked this way, cant do much about it...

Would changing the motherboard to a Z390 and hitting that 3200MHz mark fix my performance?

[Olaf6541]

3 minutes ago, ThatFrizie said:

Would changing the motherboard to a Z390 and hitting that 3200MHz mark fix my performance?

I doubt thats the issue, are you actually experiencing low fps or something? Maybe vsync is active and the system just hasnt have to do something all the time, therefore not reaching 100% load.

[Pleo]

On 9/10/2019 at 6:30 PM, ThatFrizie said:

Hello everyone,

 

So I was wondering can the ram speed of my G.SKILL Trident Z (3200mhz rated) (2x 8gb) cl16 only running at 2667 bottleneck my system?

 

As I'm running a RTX 2080 with an i7 8700 on a MSI h370 Gaming Pro Carbon and in alot of games am only seeing about 50% cpu and 65% gpu. (Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs) in 1080p

 

Your CPU being at 50% is fine. Your GPU probably isnt around 100% because you're not playing on max settings. You are bottlenecking your 2080 because you are playing on 1080p. Get a 2k/4k monitor and you will see that percentage ramping up. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

Even a PC playing Any Game on 480p Low with a 2080ti isn't getting Unlimited FPS.

 

You sometimes need to ADD demands as the Workload isn't optimized for those situations.

Many game engines would have trouble as well.. not built all equal and All that.

Pipeline bottlenecks exist in all different areas and even software plays its part on top of hardware..