need help dont want to buy another cpu to bios update

[Damnkid]

so im slowly upgrading my pc. and just bought the stuff below, i went to gigabytes website to look at the bios and it said i needed almost the newest update to use 9th gen. and i really dont want to buy a 8th gen cpu just to do a update. plz help 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$129.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$129.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Patriot Viper Elite 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$64.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$324.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-09 12:50 EDT-0400

 

[5x5]

Return it. The 9400F is not worth the money when the vastly superior Ryzen 5 3600 exists.

[Stormseeker9]

@Damnkid as @5x5 suggested return the 9400f. Terrible value to performance and no reason to buy one really.

 

a ryzen 3600 is a much better choice here. Pair it with a B450 tomahawk (Max) and you’re set. 

 

 

[Epimetheus]

It will probably come with the bios already been upgraded, it's been a while since coffee lake refresh launched. However, if it's easy for you to return, then for the same price get the 2600 and a b450 motherboard such as the asrock b450 pro4. The 3600 is a better value cpu but the price difference may be out of your reach, and the 2600 is your next best thing

[Damnkid]

yeah i only have like 350 to spend right now thats why i went 9400f, andi got the motherboard on amazon for $77 the ram and a case and it was like 344 or something, this system is for some gaming and digital art, when tax return comes im prolly gonna build a whole new pc. i just need to upgrade my i5 7400 with 8 gigs of ram for right now. @Epimetheus @Stormseeker9 @5x5 when im drawing a 4k or 8k image it gets stuttery when i zoom in to clean up lines and such 

[5x5]

Just now, Damnkid said:

yeah i only have like 350 to spend right now thats why i went 9400f, andi got the motherboard on amazon for $77 the ram and a case and it was like 344 or something, this system is for some gaming and digital art, when tax return comes im prolly gonna build a whole new pc. i just need to upgrade my i5 7400 with 8 gigs of ram for right now. @Epimetheus @Stormseeker9 @5x5 when im drawing a 4k or 8k image it gets stuttery when i zoom in to clean up lines and such 

The 9400F makes absolutely no sense then since it loses to even the 2600, let alone the 3600. Return it and buy a decent CPU for the money.

[TomvanWijnen]

29 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Return it. The 9400F is not worth the money when the vastly superior Ryzen 5 3600 exists.

 

16 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

@Damnkid as @5x5 suggested return the 9400f. Terrible value to performance and no reason to buy one really.

 

a ryzen 3600 is a much better choice here. Pair it with a B450 tomahawk (Max) and you’re set. 

 

 

lol do note that the Ryzen 3600 is 65 bucks more while only being like 10% faster...

[Epimetheus]

The i5 isn't terrible for gaming if you're aware of its many issues. For productivity though, just don't bother with intel

[5x5]

1 minute ago, TomvanWijnen said:

 

lol do note that the Ryzen 3600 is 65 bucks more while only being like 10% faster...

10% faster in single-core, 40% faster in multi-core. Don't forget that the 9400F is both locked at a low frequency (so slower in single-core) and has no HT/SMT so MUCH slower in multi-core. It also uses more power and runs hotter. I'd take a Ryzen 5.

[Stormseeker9]

1 minute ago, TomvanWijnen said:

 

lol do note that the Ryzen 3600 is 65 bucks more while only being like 10% faster...

Its a shit cpu. Doesnt  make sense. Buying a 2600 + b450 would still be a better choice than going with a 9400f

[Epimetheus]

3 minutes ago, TomvanWijnen said:

 

lol do note that the Ryzen 3600 is 65 bucks more while only being like 10% faster...

First of all the Ryzen 5 3600 offers similar performance to an i5 9600k which lacks hypertreading and costs 100 bucks more than the 9400f, second there's the 2600 to compete at that price point

[5x5]

Just now, Epimetheus said:

First of all the Ryzen 5 3600 offers similar performance to an i5 9600k which lacks hypertreading and costs 100 bucks more than the 9400f, second there's the 2600 to compete at that price point

The 9600K would also lose in multi-core, though - the 3600 is closer to an i7 8700

[TomvanWijnen]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

10% faster in single-core, 40% faster in multi-core. Don't forget that the 9400F is both locked at a low frequency (so slower in single-core) and has no HT/SMT so MUCH slower in multi-core. It also uses more power and runs hotter. I'd take a Ryzen 5.

Not everyone needs multicore. It's still $65 more.

 

5 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Its a shit cpu. Doesnt  make sense. Buying a 2600 + b450 would still be a better choice than going with a 9400f

The 2600 is exactly the same price, but worse except for very multi core...

 

4 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

First of all the Ryzen 5 3600 offers similar performance to an i5 9600k which lacks hypertreading and costs 100 bucks more than the 9400f, second there's the 2600 to compete at that price point

2600 is worse than 9400F in everything but multicore.

 

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 9600K would also lose in multi-core, though - the 3600 is closer to an i7 8700

bye money

 

Let's just help this person with his bios.

[Stormseeker9]

unless his mobo has bios flashback, I'd say he will need a 8th gen cpu to update..

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

unless his mobo has bios flashback, I'd say he will need a 8th gen cpu to update..

it doesn't.

 

And since he's returning stuff anyway, might as well get a proper CPU like a 2600 or 3600 instead of the mess of a CPU that is the 9400F

[Mathieu9836]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRXhxG

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($129.20 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $320.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-09 13:51 EDT-0400

EDIT: CPU as some headroom for OCing, the motherboard is just fine, Crucial memory are Micron E-die and they can be OCed a fair amount, enough so you won't regret buying a 2600 instead of a locked Intel CPU.

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, TomvanWijnen said:

Not everyone needs multicore. It's still $65 more.

 

The 2600 is exactly the same price, but worse except for very multi core...

 

2600 is worse than 9400F in everything but multicore.

 

bye money

 

Let's just help this person with his bios.

Single-core is pretty similar mate - the 9400F is a low-clocked locked i5, not a 5GHz i9. The difference is 2-3% in single-core and 30% in multi-core which is what the OP is using for his image editing. Bloody hell.

[Epimetheus]

17 minutes ago, TomvanWijnen said:

Not everyone needs multicore. It's still $65 more.

 

The 2600 is exactly the same price, but worse except for very multi core...

 

2600 is worse than 9400F in everything but multicore.

 

bye money

 

Let's just help this person with his bios.

let's just stop saying idiotic things while pretending to be smart. You're very clearly either a novice that still looks up things on userbenchmark, or an Intel fanboy. The 2600 is better in everything, especially multicore. And that's exactly what he needs for productivity. You get a slightly faster cpu in gaming and a way faster cpu in productivity. And you can still overclock it. You can't even make the point it's faster in adobe products, since the 9400f lacks any integrated gpu and thus all the related features. Please inform yourself before trying to sound smart

[Tristerin]

Google Express is currently offering 20% (Max $20) off first item ordered made through them again (still) - this is how I landed a $136 R7 1700 a while back.  If you can get the CPU from Google Express you can save another $20 if offered on there as well.

 

Heres an even cheaper R5 2600 $125.88 shipped

 

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8162961377035415971?q=Ryzen+5+2600&biw=1920&bih=1001&safe=active&prds=epd:16365521164140351905,paur:ClkAsKraX1Fcf08cGpwSgsrCk89Av83vhoMfGVS9TDssZxTBnShfOMF5sKCVrP44TCFk53BA89FRnAeKOVIvEOnw0OEv_K7acFephbf9620BEnQ6Qdo593h-kRIZAFPVH71r8vnRlOvfC70Bl3lufu12-NgYvA,prmr:3&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil7IaNqcTkAhUEWq0KHS1LD28Q8wIIvgM#spf=1568052061404

[Epimetheus]

15 minutes ago, TomvanWijnen said:

Let's just help this person with his bios.

Not mentioning we already basically given him every option - either the motherboard works out of the box, or it doesn't, not much else to say

[Damnkid]

and what i seen here https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/4051vs3955 is why i got the 9400f and not a 2600

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, Damnkid said:

and what i seen here https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/4051vs3955 is why i got the 9400f and not a 2600

troololol.

 

useless bench, if you can even call it a 'bench'

[Epimetheus]

2 minutes ago, Damnkid said:

and what i seen here https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/4051vs3955 is why i got the 9400f and not a 2600

That's because after Ryzen 3000 launched, the site changed its rating system making It favor Intel by a ton, while sacrificing real world numbers. It's really unreliable

[G00fySmiley]

IF still in the return window I would jsut return and buy a 3600 based system.. if outside return window then I would say for $120 a 9400f is not a bad CPU its just not the best value ie price to performance is not great. 

 

also as said an dneeds to e screamed from the hills... cpu.userbenchmarks.com is trash do nto trust it, in fact i suggest reporting through google your displeasure a them continually showing up high in search results due to their deceptive practices.

[Damnkid]

than what is a good site to use?