i5 9600k or Ryzen 5 3600

[Atyen]

I have an i3 4160, B85M motherboard, 8 GB RAM and GTX 1050 Ti.

I want to upgrade to either an i5 9600K or Ryzen 5 3600. I use my PC for ocassional gaming, photo and video editing, programming, and general browsing. Which CPU would be better, and if I go with the Ryzen CPU, would I need an X570 motherboard or a B450 would be fine? Also, would either of the CPUs bottleneck my graphics card, GTX 1050 Ti? If yes, then to what extent? I usually play GTA V, Far Cry, Tomb Raider.

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, Atyen said:

would either of the CPUs bottleneck my graphics card, GTX 1050 Ti?

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What's the budget/country for your upgrades?

[GoldenLag]

15 minutes ago, Atyen said:

Also, would either of the CPUs bottleneck my graphics card, GTX 1050 Ti? If yes, then to what extent?

no, your graphicscard is not very fast and is likely to be the limiting factor. 

 

how much are you spending on this upgrade?

[Epimetheus]

I can assure you a High mid range part Is not going to be the bottleneck a low end not so great even for its price graphics card. It's going to be the other way around

[Epimetheus]

The Ryzen 5 3600 is much better in price-performance, but i think the i5 is a bit better in Adobe Premiere and Photoshop, but much worse in any other productivity workload

[Atyen]

16 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

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What's the budget/country for your upgrades?

India.

30,000 INR

[Atyen]

10 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

no, your graphicscard is not very fast and is likely to be the limiting factor. 

 

how much are you spending on this upgrade?

About 30k INR

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Atyen said:

About 30k INR

I dunno if the part picker for india is accurate, but it looks like you're going to have to save a bit more for the latest stuff. I think it only uses amazon india.

Going to want an MSI B450 board with USB bios flashing for Ryzen 3000.

Or maybe look for a cheap used Ryzen 5 1600, with a motherboard and RAM locally.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fj9Hw6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (₹18849.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (₹10099.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (₹7780.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹36728.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-06 14:41 IST+0530

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Atyen said:

About 30k INR

something like what was posted above, sadly indian PCP isnt super accurate. 

[Atyen]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I dunno if the part picker for india is accurate, but it looks like you're going to have to save a bit more for the latest stuff. I think it only uses amazon india.

Going to want an MSI B450 board with USB bios flashing for Ryzen 3000.

Or maybe look for a cheap used Ryzen 5 1600, with a motherboard and RAM locally.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fj9Hw6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (₹18849.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (₹10099.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (₹7780.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹36728.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-06 14:41 IST+0530

I am getting the CPU for about 16k, B450 Aorus Elite Motherboard for 9k and and 8 GB GSKILL DDR4 RAM 3000 Mhz for 3.5k. So its in my budget. Only thing I'm worried about is the graphics card bottlenecking.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Atyen said:

I am getting the CPU for about 16k, B450 Aorus Elite Motherboard for 9k and and 8 GB GSKILL DDR4 RAM 3000 Mhz for 3.5k. So its in my budget. Only thing I'm worried about the graphics card bottlenecking.

How could it bottle neck if it's much faster than your current CPU?

Do you have a way to update the bios on the B450 aorus elite? like a loaner CPU?

I would highly suggest you keep saving since you have a working PC, and at least get 16GBs of memory so you never have to upgrade it again.

[Atyen]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

How could it bottle neck if it's much faster than your current CPU?

I mean in the new system. With the 3600.

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Do you have a way to update the bios on the B450 aorus elite? like a loaner CPU?

I thought I could update the BIOS. I don't really know how this works.

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I would highly suggest you keep saving since you have a working PC, and at least get 16GBs of memory so you never have to upgrade it again.

Yes I can get 16 GB, thats not a problem.

 

The budget is not a problem. I just wanna if my games and other stuff will work well with the new system.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Atyen said:

 

Only some of the MSI B450 boards allow for USB bios flashing.

The other boards require an older CPU so they can boot up and then update the bios. So you have to borrow a CPU to update the bios on the gigabyte board.

[Atyen]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Only some of the MSI B450 boards allow for USB bios flashing.

The other boards require an older CPU so they can boot up and then update the bios. So you have to borrow a CPU to update the bios on the gigabyte board.

Oh okay. Thanks for the info.

Can you mention some of those MSI boards that do allow bios flashing??

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Atyen said:

Oh okay. Thanks for the info.

Can you mention some of those MSI boards that do allow bios flashing??

 

27 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

 

Just check MSI's website for the motherboard you're looking it.

 

Mostly make sure it has a 4 phase VRM and Heatsinks on the VRM

The gaming Plus is missing a top heatsink, but that only really matters if you're using an APU.

[MadmanRB]

Since this is india you may want to look into the Ryzen 5 2600 instead so you can have some cash if you want to up your GPU

The R5 2600 is

₹ 14,240.00   vs ₹ 18,849.00  for the 3600   sure it wont be as powerful as the i5 9600K but thats   ₹ 20,899.00   For the indian market i would go for that, more funds for a better GPU this way.   I mean the 2600 is still a great processor in its own right even after the zen 2 launch and its cheaper overall Since the 1050 will bottleneck anything right now i say getting second gen ryzen is not a bad advisement in this scenario.

[Atyen]

6 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

Since this is india you may want to look into the Ryzen 5 2600 instead so you can have some cash if you want to up your GPU

The R5 2600 is

₹ 14,240.00   vs ₹ 18,849.00  for the 3600   sure it wont be as powerful as the i5 9600K but thats   ₹ 20,899.00   For the indian market i would go for that, more funds for a better GPU this way.

I am saving up for the graphics card and I'll upgrade next year, and I don't really wanna compromise on the CPU.

[Atyen]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

 

Just check MSI's website for the motherboard you're looking it.

 

Mostly make sure it has a 4 phase VRM and Heatsinks on the VRM

The gaming Plus is missing a top heatsink, but that only really matters if you're using an APU.

Alright, thanks!

[MadmanRB]

9 minutes ago, Atyen said:

I am saving up for the graphics card and I'll upgrade next year, and I don't really wanna compromise on the CPU.

 

Got yah and understood.

Still though it would not be a terrible investment if you wanted to go that route, the 2600 on average isnt that far behind the 3600 and even though the 3600 is better in gaming overall on par with the 8700K the 2600 is no slouch.

I am just aware the indian market isnt as good as others and the compromises are sometimes favorable especially if you can find one of these processors used.

I mean if you can find a 2600 used for super cheap its not a bad deal at all.

[Atyen]

7 minutes ago, MadmanRB said:

 

Got yah and understood.

Still though it would not be a terrible investment if you wanted to go that route, the 2600 on average isnt that far behind the 3600 and even though the 3600 is better in gaming overall on par with the 8700K the 2600 is no slouch.

I am just aware the indian market isnt as good as others and the compromises are sometimes favorable especially if you can find one of these processors used.

I mean if you can find a 2600 used for super cheap its not a bad deal at all.

Alright, I'll check the prices for the 2600 at my local stores.

Thanks

[MadmanRB]

Yeah if you can find one for cheaper go for it, I mean yeah it wont be as good as the 3600 but in most cases is not too far behind in gaming:

 

In either case its going to be better then your i3 4160, heck even first gen ryzen would blow that thing out of the water.

the Ryzen 5 1600 would run circles around your current setup.

[191x7]

If you're not going to upgrade the GPU soon, just get an used i7 4770. It would be like having 2 of those i3 4160.

Same tech, nearly the same clocks, the i3 has two cores with hyperthreading the i7 has 4 cores with hyperthreading.

In modern games that can use more than 4 threads, the i7 is roughly double the i3.

Also, the i7 wouldn't bottleneck the GTX 1050Ti. For it to bottleneck a card on 1080p the card has to be an GTX 1070 range of a card or stronger.