Will my RX580 perform better on i7-8700?

[teamzach]

Soon, I'll used this specs I'm just waiting for my ATX case.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	$309.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B360 GAMING ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory	ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Video Card	Asus Radeon RX 580 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card	$316.40 @ Walmart
Power Supply	SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$60.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	BenQ ZOWIE XL2411P 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$199.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$886.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-04 01:45 EDT-0400

 

Will my RX580 still performed better? I used this card right now on i5-4460 16GB RAM.

[Streetguru]

53 minutes ago, teamzach said:

 

Why are you buying an 8700 at this point? Ryzen is a way better value, actually for less than the cost of that new 8700 you can get an R5 2600 ~$125 + ~$80 motherboard, assuming the prices translate

Also that PSU is a rather old design.

Or I guess you already have the motherboard? You could always just sell it potentially...

[homeap5]

If right now any game uses 100% of your cpu then it may perform better.

[GoldenLag]

22 minutes ago, teamzach said:

Power Supply SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $60.99 @ Amazon

this is a no. 

22 minutes ago, teamzach said:

CPU Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon

would not suggest getting the 8700 unless you do a lot of Adobe Premiere, or hate AMD or are in some region where pricing is odd. 

[homeap5]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

would not suggest getting th 8700 unless you do a lot of Adobe Premiere. 

it's very good CPU. May be a little overpriced these days, but if somoene likes Intel - it's still very good choice. Not only for Premiere, but for games too.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

it's very good CPU. May be a little overpriced these days, but if somoene likes Intel - it's still very good choice. Not only for Premiere, but for games too.

i added other reasons, but its a better choice than any of the 6c/6t options. avoid those like the plague. this includes the r5 3500 that comming up, unless its really, really cheap. 

[Stormseeker9]

14 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

i added other reasons, but its a better choice than any of the 6c/6t options. avoid those like the plague. this includes the r5 3500 that comming up, unless its really, really cheap. 

There’s a 3500 coming? Damn, even more cpu’s don’t see the point of a 3500 tho

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

There’s a 3500 coming? Damn, even more cpu’s don’t see the point of a 3500 tho

yup, its comming. its gonna be awful unless its the price of an r3 1300x (at launch) so a 129$ or so. 

 

edit: if you want headup for CPUs comming, pay attention to Tom Apisak on Twitter

[hollyh88]

40 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

it's very good CPU. May be a little overpriced these days, but if somoene likes Intel - it's still very good choice. Not only for Premiere, but for games too.

its good for games but ryzen is just better value. heck you can get a 3600/x which is way better for less. get a good mobo with it and voila better cpu that is overclockable  

[hollyh88]

24 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

yup, its comming. its gonna be awful unless its the price of an r3 1300x (at launch) so a 129$ or so. 

 

edit: if you want headup for CPUs comming, pay attention to Tom Apisak on Twitter

eh i believe the 3500 will be dirt cheap yes still not worth it tho  

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

3600/x

x variant makes no sense and is poor value. 

[hollyh88]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

x variant makes no sense and is poor value. 

true but it's optional for those who can get it  i got my 2600x for about 190 euro's back when they were originally around 240 so had a good deal on it. bought it last year. 

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

true but it's optional for those who can get it  i got my 2600x for about 190 euro's back when they were originally around 240 so had a good deal on it. bought it last year. 

i mean, if its cheaper than the non-x. otherwise its pointless. the 3600 is literally as fast as the 3600x. no difference. 

[lawliot]

Is there a specific reason for getting an 8700? 

[Stormseeker9]

46 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

yup, its comming. its gonna be awful unless its the price of an r3 1300x (at launch) so a 129$ or so. 

 

edit: if you want headup for CPUs comming, pay attention to Tom Apisak on Twitter

Thanks for the info man!

[teamzach]

I just bought the CPU + Mother board + 16GB ram for $400 brand new with 2yrs warranty. So I grabbed them. I'm not AMD hater, I just like Intel for my personal preference.

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

this is a no.

Why not no for the PSU?

 

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

Also that PSU is a rather old design.

But still my PSU is Ok with my current build?

 

Thanks for the input guys.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, teamzach said:

Why not no for the PSU?

its fine for office style PCs because the 450w model is really cheap. otherwise id suggest avoiding it. 

 

1 minute ago, teamzach said:

I just bought the CPU + Mother board + 16GB ram for $400 brand new with 2yrs warranty.

well thats a good deal, so thats very much something to go for. 

1 minute ago, teamzach said:

But still my PSU is Ok with my current build?

you allready own it or?

 

if not id suggest a cx 550 over it any day of the week. 

[teamzach]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

its fine for office style PCs because the 450w model is really cheap. otherwise id suggest avoiding it. 

 

well thats a good deal, so thats very much something to go for. 

you allready own it or?

 

if not id suggest a cx 550 over it any day of the week. 

I already owned because my recent PSU died a week ago. So I bought this:  Seasonic S12II 620 Bronze Power Supply SS-620GB https://seasonic.com/s12ii

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, teamzach said:

I already owned because my recent PSU died a week ago. So I bought this:  Seasonic S12II 620 Bronze Power Supply SS-620GB https://seasonic.com/s12ii

um...... do you have the option of returning it?

 

that there is a very old design. 

[teamzach]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

um...... do you have the option of returning it?

 

that there is a very old design. 

I'll try, do you have any recommendation if ever? But this very old design PSU cannot power up that setup?

[GoldenLag]

Just now, teamzach said:

I'll try, do you have any recommendation if ever? But this very old design PSU cannot power up that setup?

it can power the setup, but i would not recommend running it however. 

 

cx550 or cx450 are better choices. the cx550 should keep you company for many years. 

 

if you are in the UK and Europe the pure power 10/11 500w is good. 

[hollyh88]

4 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

i mean, if its cheaper than the non-x. otherwise its pointless. the 3600 is literally as fast as the 3600x. no difference. 

the only differences is higher tdp. but eh still i personally would get the x. i advice everyone to get the non x though. i did the same with my 2600x. could have gotten the non x version but for only 10-20 bucks i dont really mind spending a bit more. XD 

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

the only differences is higher tdp.

except you gain nothing....... and enabling PBO gives them exactly the same characteristics. its in fact in many ways a worse CPU

3 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

could have gotten the non x version but for only 10-20 bucks i dont really mind spending a bit more

thats 20€ you could spend on a better cooler. 

[Jon Jon]

10 hours ago, homeap5 said:

it's very good CPU. May be a little overpriced these days, but if somoene likes Intel - it's still very good choice. Not only for Premiere, but for games too.

With the new IPC enhancements in Ryzen 3000, I would imagine that the 8700 doesn't even have that much of an advantage, if any at all anymore, in Adobe applications.

 

I could be wrong though. Are there any benchmarks that showcase this?

[St.Nick]

Actually, the 3600x DOES have a point. If your not big into overclocking and just wanna slap some values into Ryzen master and get a quick overclock you can pretty much set your best two cores on the 3600x to 4400 and be absolutely fine. That's what the X skew is being binned for, having the best 'fastest cores' out of the lot to raise it's ability to boost under stock settings. The other 4 cores may still be a crap shoot but on a regular 3600 all of them are. And there are 3600's out there where 4200 is the absolute max your gonna get before it bricks. Is that worth 50 bucks? heck no, but spending 10 or 20 extra for it may not really be that bad a policy.