cpu CORE TO QUAD or INTEL XEON ?

[N00bMaSTer69]

so to begin with, this is one of the older machine that I had used in the past (moved to imac) but to my surprise when  i plugged it in it booted to that old sweet win7 sp1 (RIP) and after looking online and checking the condition of the machine i have decided to upgrade it rather then throwing it away and as i looked online and researched about the upgrades that i could make to it, one of them is cpu, so i thought i should have some opinions and suggestions before making changes to it. details;

Motherboard: (Intel DG41RQ  E54511-203) http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel/DG41RQ.html#cs

CURRENT;

cpu; Core to duo E4700, 2.6 GHz, L2 2 MB, No integrated GPU, SSpec SLALT

Ram: some good old DDR2 4gb 800Mhz

GPU: Gigabyte 630 GT 2GB

PSU: 550 w

PLANNING TO:

 cpu: EITHER Core to quad Q9650, 3 GHz, FSB 1333 MHz, L2 12 MB, SSpec SLB8W OR Intel XEON 3085, 3 GHz, FSB 1333 MHz, L2 4 MB, SSpec SLAA2   

Ram: 8GB ? 

GPU: probably remains same

PSU: 650w (because have a spare)

so thats what i have in mind , bless me with your knowledge LLT FORUM GAWDS

[Jurrunio]

for what? For just watching netflix and stuff, adding an SSD wil do everything. Dont need more CPU power.

 

and also you should mention your motherboard.

[N00bMaSTer69]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

for what? For just watching netflix and stuff, adding an SSD wil do everything. Dont need more CPU power.

 

and also you should mention your motherboard.

I have given the link to the motherboard details. this can come into category weekend projects and curiosity. i need to upgrade CPU , it takes overwhelming time just to boot up and opening a file

 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

it takes overwhelming time just to boot up and opening a file

that's an indicated of a slow boot drive, not CPU.

 

because of pricing, the fastest quad cores are a no-no. Better get something more mid range, like a Q9400 or x3230. If you are into overclocking, aim for those with 1066MHz FSB so you can overclock the FSB more. G41 chipset cant overclock much on 1333MHz FSB CPUs.

[N00bMaSTer69]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

that's an indicated of a slow boot drive, not CPU.

 

because of pricing, the fastest quad cores are a no-no. Better get something more mid range, like a Q9400 or x3230

so ssd is getting replaced for sure, thanks for that one

now for cpu i have looked up in the local store and i have found many core to quad 3ghz chipsets at around an average of 30$ and havent found any good intel xeon yet only 2 ghz chipsets, whats ur take on that one?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

now for cpu i have looked up in the local store and i have found many core to quad 3ghz chipsets at around an average of 30$ and havent found any good intel xeon yet only 2 ghz chipsets, whats ur take on that one?

if you overclock, prioritize those with 1066MHz FSB (200MHz in BIOS). G41 chipset should at least be able to crank them up to 333MHz in BIOS which is a significant speed up. Of course cooling for the CPU and VRM on the board will need to be strengthened, but that's for speed.

 

Otherwise, get the highest frequency one without a significantly higher price than the one slightly slower.

 

Core and Xeon is only different by name and frequency in those days, maybe iGPU but since it's in the chipset I dont think they are related.

[N00bMaSTer69]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

if you overclock, prioritize those with 1066MHz FSB (200MHz in BIOS). G41 chipset should at least be able to crank them up to 333MHz in BIOS which is a significant speed up. Of course cooling for the CPU and VRM on the board will need to be strengthened, but that's for speed.

 

Otherwise, get the highest frequency one without a significantly higher price than the one slightly slower.

 

Core and Xeon is only different by name and frequency in those days, maybe iGPU but since it's in the chipset I dont think they are related.

Haven't got any experience with clocking but will give the shot at that too, in he mean time what u think about the cpus that i have mentioned in the post 

 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

Haven't got any experience with clocking but will give the shot at that too, in he mean time what u think about the cpus that i have mentioned in the post 

 

they are both 1333mhz, not recommended.

[N00bMaSTer69]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

they are both 1333mhz, not recommended.

what cpus would u recommend ?

motherboard: Intel DG41RQ E54511-203

 

[Chronified]

Get a Q6600 from eBay (Under $12) and do the BSEL mod (1 piece of tape on one of the cpu pads bumps the fsb), no bios and bumps the CPU from 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz. I used one for yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars. 

[Chronified]

This is the pad you cover on a Q6600 to bump it from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz. 

I just realized I put it in my girlfriends dell, she still daily drives it lol

[Jurrunio]

27 minutes ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

what cpus would u recommend ?

motherboard: Intel DG41RQ E54511-203

 

as I said, 1066MHz FSB

[N00bMaSTer69]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

as I said, 1066MHz FSB

 

i founf this Q6700, 2.66 GHz, FSB 1066 MHz, L2 8 MB, SSpec SLACQ

which supports my board 

and i dont think my board supports cpu overclocking cause the only option i have found in bios is for mem speed 667 / 800mhz

[N00bMaSTer69]

16 minutes ago, Chronified said:

This is the pad you cover on a Q6600 to bump it from 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz. 

I just realized I put it in my girlfriends dell, she still daily drives it lol

lol , didnt even knew a thing like this existed but this is useless for me since my board doesnt supports cpu overclock 

 

[Jurrunio]

58 minutes ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

i dont think my board supports cpu overclocking

beautiful thing of 775 is that while the multiplier is locked, the base clock (called FSB at the time) is not. That's why I told you to get 1066MHz. Otherwise higher IPC on later 1333MHz CPUs are preferred.

 

the pad mod will work on boards that dont support multipler overclocking too.

[Waqas409]

if you are in budget go with x58 xeon setup. Cheap and very powerfull.

[Chronified]

6 hours ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

lol , didnt even knew a thing like this existed but this is useless for me since my board doesnt supports cpu overclock 

 

That's why this method exists I have this in a Dell Optiplex 745, it in no way supports overclocking, but covering the 1 pad makes the CPU think the motherboard bumped the FSB. 

 

It's overclocking for motherboards that can't overclock Only works with certain LGA 775 processors though. Q6600 offers great preformance @ 3.0ghz with the FSB mod, and are a dime a dozen because they were SOOOOO popular. 

[N00bMaSTer69]

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

as I said, 1066MHz FSB

sorry jurrunio , clearly reading the info u provided yesterday at four in the morning ,  i didnt noticed the obvious that 1333MHz cant be overclocked but 1066MHz can be overclocked by 200MHz thru FSB. am i getting ur point now or still too dumb to be doing this? lol

[N00bMaSTer69]

4 hours ago, Chronified said:

That's why this method exists I have this in a Dell Optiplex 745, it in no way supports overclocking, but covering the 1 pad makes the CPU think the motherboard bumped the FSB. 

 

It's overclocking for motherboards that can't overclock Only works with certain LGA 775 processors though. Q6600 offers great preformance @ 3.0ghz with the FSB mod, and are a dime a dozen because they were SOOOOO popular. 

lol i may be tempted to try this now, maybe i will try on this core 2 duo cpu that this board originally had. 

 

[N00bMaSTer69]

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[N00bMaSTer69]

4 hours ago, Waqas409 said:

if you are in budget go with x58 xeon setup. Cheap and very powerfull.

thanks Waqas for that somewhat helpful channel, do u know by any chance what rig he is using , i didnt found any info about that in his videos (didnt watched all of them obviously) 

[Chronified]

50 minutes ago, N00bMaSTer69 said:

lol i may be tempted to try this now, maybe i will try on this core 2 duo cpu that this board originally had. 

 

Pretty sure for the E4700 you need to bridge 2 pins together to do the BSEL mod, just get a windshield defogger repair kit, which uses copper paint.

 

But for the price of doing that mod, you could spend the extra $4 it'd cost to get a Q6600 lol

 

*EDIT HOLY JESUS CHRIST JUST BUY THE Q6600 IT'S ONLY $7 W/FREE SHIPPING!!!!!!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Core-CPU-Q6600-2-4GHz-8M-1066-LGA775-SLACR/183118728120?epid=74103280&hash=item2aa2ba0bb8%3Ag%3AfMcAAOSwZlZaTLPE&LH_BIN=1

 

[N00bMaSTer69]

21 hours ago, Chronified said:

Pretty sure for the E4700 you need to bridge 2 pins together to do the BSEL mod, just get a windshield defogger repair kit, which uses copper paint.

 

But for the price of doing that mod, you could spend the extra $4 it'd cost to get a Q6600 lol

 

*EDIT HOLY JESUS CHRIST JUST BUY THE Q6600 IT'S ONLY $7 W/FREE SHIPPING!!!!!!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Core-CPU-Q6600-2-4GHz-8M-1066-LGA775-SLACR/183118728120?epid=74103280&hash=item2aa2ba0bb8%3Ag%3AfMcAAOSwZlZaTLPE&LH_BIN=1

 

hahahahahaha HOLY MOTHER OF CELERON PROCESSOR! 7$

[Waqas409]

On 9/1/2019 at 4:32 PM, N00bMaSTer69 said:

thanks Waqas for that somewhat helpful channel, do u know by any chance what rig he is using , i didnt found any info about that in his videos (didnt watched all of them obviously) 

the one in my signatures ?
 

[N00bMaSTer69]

2 hours ago, Waqas409 said:

the one in my signatures ?
 

so its your channel then, right?