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Hi, I'm Allu From Finland and I'm building my first gaming/working PC. I like to play video games, but also make 3d models, make games, music, video editing, cad, so basically lots of things.
I'm an Nvidia guy And have been using an MSI gaming laptop for 4 years but it broke at the start of the summer.
Any help would be nice.

Budget is something like 2000 euros

I don't care about rgb

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7 minutes ago, allualbert said:

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What's your monitor set up? What resolution/refresh rate(s)?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €350.00
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €119.19 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €67.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage TCSunBow X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €89.59 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Twin Video Card €1104.99 @ Alternate
Case Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case €39.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Enermax REVOLUTION X't 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00131A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan €5.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00131A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan €5.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00131A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan €5.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1859.53
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 09:19 CEST+0200  

 

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PCPartPicker Part List:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor €529.00 @ ARLT
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler €29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €163.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory €92.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €176.30 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive €36.69 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING Video Card €759.90 @ Caseking
Case NZXT H500 ATX Mid Tower Case €82.40 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Deepcool RF 120 (3 in 1) 56.5 CFM 120 mm Fans €35.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2000.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 15:39 CEST+0200  

 

This is just a rough estimate - prices may differ in Finland

 

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31 minutes ago, realpetertdm said:

PCPartPicker Part List:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor €529.00 @ ARLT
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler €29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €163.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory €92.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €176.30 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive €36.69 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING Video Card €759.90 @ Caseking
Case NZXT H500 ATX Mid Tower Case €82.40 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Deepcool RF 120 (3 in 1) 56.5 CFM 120 mm Fans €35.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2000.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 15:39 CEST+0200  

 

This is just a rough estimate - prices may differ in Finland

 

Terrible board/cooler for a 3900X. The SSD is also expensive, considering you can get ones just as good for a lot less. Case doesn't have the best airflow either. Also no need to pay extra for 3600 Ram, especially CL18.

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28 minutes ago, allualbert said:

so...

 

You don't really need to spend more than like 1300 EUR going by german prices, whatever an R7 3700X and an RX 5700 XT costs

I'd grab a secondary 4k display for better productivity for like video editing and stuff, a 32" display would be preferred to a 27" display.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fJGZ4q

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€343.48 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€207.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Patriot VPN100 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€92.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC II Video Card  (€437.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.97 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.69 @ Mindfactory)
Monitor: LG 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€249.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ EW3270U 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€273.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: Samsung LU32J590UQUXEN 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€299.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2172.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:12 CEST+0200

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You don't really need to spend more than like 1300 EUR going by german prices, whatever an R7 3700X and an RX 5700 XT costs

I'd grab a secondary 4k display for better productivity for like video editing and stuff, a 32" display would be preferred to a 27" display.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fJGZ4q

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€343.48 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€207.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Patriot VPN100 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€92.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC II Video Card  (€437.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.97 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€94.69 @ Mindfactory)
Monitor: LG 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€249.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: BenQ EW3270U 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€273.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: Samsung LU32J590UQUXEN 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  (€299.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2172.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 18:12 CEST+0200

Nvidia Guy

and did you forget the cpu cooler?

:D

 

 

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54 minutes ago, allualbert said:

Nvidia Guy

and did you forget the cpu cooler?

:D

 

 

AMD easily has the better GPUs for the money right now, you can spend a fair amount more money, but you really won't be getting that much more performance. Especially since your main gaming display is only 1080p 144hz.

Plus navi's new upscaling tech means you can cheat out more performance while still having good visuals, and AMD has the exact same software options as nvidia in the drivers.
 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dg6WnH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€343.48 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€52.90 @ Caseking)
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcGWIJW3iNU

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Terrible board/cooler for a 3900X. The SSD is also expensive, considering you can get ones just as good for a lot less. Case doesn't have the best airflow either. Also no need to pay extra for 3600 Ram, especially CL18.

Why is the board terrible?

Also how is a Hyper 212 "terrible" for a 3900X?

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13 minutes ago, realpetertdm said:

 

Because for the 12 core, and a $500 CPU, you should not be buying the cheapest possible motherboard. I'd go with the X570 Gaming Plus at minimum.

 

And again for a $500 CPU, you can surely spend more on the cooling, like with the Scythe Fuma 2 which is a dual tower cooler for a low price.

 

But he really probably doesn't need the 12 core, can just save that money for the eventual 16 core CPU if 8 cores isn't enough.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Because for the 12 core, and a $500 CPU, you should not be buying the cheapest possible motherboard. I'd go with the X570 Gaming Plus at minimum.

 

And again for a $500 CPU, you can surely spend more on the cooling, like with the Scythe Fuma 2 which is a dual tower cooler for a low price.

 

But he really probably doesn't need the 12 core, can just save that money for the eventual 16 core CPU if 8 cores isn't enough.

I'm not saying that that ASRock board is amazing or something but I don't see why it's "terrible". Same with the cooler. 

I personally went a bit cheap with the mobo & cooler for a better GPU.

8 cores is probably fine too

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42 minutes ago, realpetertdm said:

Why is the board terrible?

Also how is a Hyper 212 "terrible" for a 3900X?

Already seen that video numerous times. The ram you chose is CL18 which is pretty slow for 3600MHz. 

 

The board has a weak VRM and won't handle a 3900X. The cooler is also sub par. An Arctic Freezer 34 esports duo is already better for the same sort of money.

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6 hours ago, allualbert said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8ZpxG

How about this setup

 

That's a decent build but:

 

1) it's the US version meaning it won't be the same component availability as there in Finland and also, most importantly, there will be a price difference.

 

2) it's already ~$1600 (which is about 2000EUR anyway) and you haven't even taken into account the price of the RTX 2080 Super you've put there which will surely overshoot your stated budget of 2000EUR. I would stick to something closer to what @Streetguru or @LukeSavenije suggested before.

 

Also, I would swap the thermal paste for kryonaut as conductonaut is electrically conductive (I believe) and not worth the risk for the minimal improvement in thermal transfer, in my opinion at least.

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1 hour ago, GeLi said:

That's a decent build but:

 

1) it's the US version meaning it won't be the same component availability as there in Finland and also, most importantly, there will be a price difference.

 

2) it's already ~$1600 (which is about 2000EUR anyway) and you haven't even taken into account the price of the RTX 2080 Super you've put there which will surely overshoot your stated budget of 2000EUR. I would stick to something closer to what @Streetguru or @LukeSavenije suggested before.

 

Also, I would swap the thermal paste for kryonaut as conductonaut is electrically conductive (I believe) and not worth the risk for the minimal improvement in thermal transfer, in my opinion at least.

With finland prices i got it down to little it over 2000€

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1 hour ago, GeLi said:

That's a decent build but:

 

1) it's the US version meaning it won't be the same component availability as there in Finland and also, most importantly, there will be a price difference.

 

2) it's already ~$1600 (which is about 2000EUR anyway) and you haven't even taken into account the price of the RTX 2080 Super you've put there which will surely overshoot your stated budget of 2000EUR. I would stick to something closer to what @Streetguru or @LukeSavenije suggested before.

 

Also, I would swap the thermal paste for kryonaut as conductonaut is electrically conductive (I believe) and not worth the risk for the minimal improvement in thermal transfer, in my opinion at least.

With finland prices i got it down to little bit over 2000€

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16 hours ago, allualbert said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8ZpxG

How about this setup

 

Should really just get the RX 5700 XT, it's great for the money, a 2080 super is something like 15-20% faster, but for twice the price.

Otherwise you can get really cheap windows 10 keys on ebay that work fine for like $5.

And you don't need the most expensive motherboard, one of the 200 EUR like the Gaming plus, ASUS TUF, or Gigabyte Elite will be fine.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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