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I am an upcoming artist who will be doing 2D art and 3D modelling to some extent at first. Currently I am planning for my new PC build after 8 years of using i7 2600k, P67X board, 8GB ram, and previously GTX680, after burndown some years ago, and then recent death, I am running a loaned GTX960 for now. First thing to buy is a video card, but overall plan is to get Ryzen 3700X and wait for X570 budget boards in late 2019 and early 2020 (called around X540 or something), and getting an 32GB RAM for what I want to do.

But, about the topic, the graphics card, seeing that I will be doing half workstation half gaming, I can't decide which one to take, mostly between 2070S and 5700XT. I know the nvidia has quite the software support for artists, but I have no idea about whether 5700XT has any, if 5700XT has, then I would take that one, how well it renders and processes things vs 2070 and 2070S. I am kind of trying not to spend a lot, but then again, I want to have an investment for future, and that sweet-spot is quite disturbing here, this a stupid and hard decision to make, especially when one has been around for a year, and the other only just now released, but whether or not AMD will have the drivers for RDNA for artists or not is a question that remains to me.

I want to know, as an artist, which one I should pick as I am a gamer and planning to become a professional artist within videogame industry doing concept and environment art, it involves Krita and heavy Photoshop usage, as well as possibly to some extent 3D programs, such as Blender 2.80 and possibly Maya, etc.
Is anyone experienced in these similar fields and could recommend one over the other with argumented reasons? I really need to be sure that I pick a right one (considering that my income is not yet stable enough to be sure of what I buy), even if 2070 is costlier than other two, cheapest I found is 548 Euro's, while I found regular 2070 for ~447 Euro's, and 5700XT for around ~480-500 Euro's, basically in the middle of both nvidia cards. If 2070 Super is recommended, then that's the max price I am willing to pay if it's a Super, the other two are like...whether 5700XT has anything to offer for artists. Of course I will get the partner card, currently looking at XFX THICC 2 that I like, but I have no idea about the noise and temperatures under load etc.

Thank you in advance.

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6 minutes ago, smaddeus said:

Ryzen 3700X and wait for X570 budget boards in late 2019 and early 2020 (called around X540 or something),

B550, but you shouldn't buy a CPU and board at seperate times. Either you wait, or you buy both (even if it means a different chipset) because otherwise you'll be using the system only after the later purchase has been made, and prices of CPUs and boards all go down slowly over time.

 

Stick to Nvidia for work imo, software support is more reliable even if it's overall (after everything's working as intended, wink wink AMD) weaker in things it can help with. 

 

As for the pricing, that's normal because according to gaming performance, 2060 + 5% = 5700, + 5% = 2060 Super, + 7% = 2070, + 5% = 5700XT, +10% = 2070 Super.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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38 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

B550, but you shouldn't buy a CPU and board at seperate times. Either you wait, or you buy both

I wasn't saying I will buy separately CPU and board... I was just saying that I will buy 3700X without doubt.

But what is your opinion regarding 2070 and 2070 Super... whether the price is justified to get 2070 Super, or not just better with 2070? In either option is there a chance to have them as future proof cards? Obviously the latter being the more future proof, but does the price difference justifies to have 2070 Super over 2070? I have seen a lot of practical benchmarks, went to wiki for more detailed statistics of nvidia 20** series and better comparison between them on paper, and even 2070 Super being on par with 2080 regular on paper stats since it is a downgraded 2080 seeing that they both have same codename 104, but I can't seem to have my own opinion regarding this.
The difference is noticeable to some extent, sure, but is it that big of a deal for 50-100 Euro's more(?), not that sure.

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10 minutes ago, smaddeus said:

But what is your opinion regarding 2070 and 2070 Super... whether the price is justified to get 2070 Super, or not just better with 2070? In either option is there a chance to have them as future proof cards? Obviously the latter being the more future proof, but does the price difference justifies to have 2070 Super over 2070? I have seen a lot of practical benchmarks, went to wiki for more detailed statistics of nvidia 20** series and better comparison between them on paper, and even 2070 Super being on par with 2080 regular on paper stats since it is a downgraded 2080 seeing that they both have same codename 104, but I can't seem to have my own opinion regarding this.
The difference is noticeable to some extent, sure, but is it that big of a deal for 50-100 Euro's more(?), not that sure.

you can estimate the Turing GPU relative performance with core count, since they are based on the same architecture. GPU core name (TU106, TU104 for example) doesnt mean much since Nvidia (all brands do this) can disable cores (sometimes because they dont work, but not always) to produce different products out of the same chip

 

Sounds like 2070 is the best deal from what you have listed, but if you consider the 2070 you should also check out the 2060 Super, since they are much closer than 2070S to 2070.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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